[Evolution] 1.5.7 oddity
Not Zed
notzed@ximian.com
Tue, 27 Apr 2004 14:14:58 +0800
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On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 01:01 -0400, Michael R Head wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 12:12 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 13:26 -0700, Des Dougan wrote:
> >
> > How do you know the mail has been received there?
> >
> > You visit it?
>
> I watch the exim/procmail logs on the server and note that evolution
> doesn't yet know about new mail in those folders. When I visit folders
> that should have new messages, it then tells me about them. For some
> folders, it seems to work (notably, the evolution mailing list). Ones
> that don't seem to work well are my Sent-from/* and Sent-to/*.
But you're hitting a limitation of the IMAP protocol here. It has no
way (apart from a just-expired experimental rfc) of informing clients of
any changes to any folder outside the currently selected one.
Which is why we have to do some stupid/slow send/receive hacks.
> Send/Receive doesn't seem to do much of anything (anymore) for IMAP. In
> 1.4, it very clearly checked each folder (that is, it displayed a
> message about each folder it was visiting).
>
> I have "automatically check for new mail every X minutes" set to 5.
> I have "check for new mail in all folders" set as well.
> I have filters turned off, and I have disabled "show only subscribed
> folders" (though I have them all subscribed for thunderbird in windows).
> My current workaround is to exit evolution and start it up. At startup,
> it seems to find everything just fine.
>
>
> > When you click 'send/recv' does it fix it?
> > What output do you get from the terminal (when you run it from a
> > terminal)? It should spit a lot of crap about updating unread counts.
>
> I haven't yet run it from the commandline. But I will do it when I get a
> chance.
> What's the URL for the bug?
this isn't exactly the same but is close enough:
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56552
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Des
> > >
> > > --
> > > Des Dougan, Principal
> > > Dougan Consulting Group
> > >
> > > Ph: 604-980-2848 Email: des at DouganConsulting dot com
> > >
> > > www.DouganConsulting.com
> > >
> > > Design - Implementation - Support
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com
> > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> >
> > Michael Zucchi
> > <notzed@ximian.com>
> >
> > Ximian Evolution and
> > Free Software Developer
> >
> >
> > Novell, Inc.
> --
> Michael R Head <burner@suppressingfire.org>
> http://suppressingfire.org/~burner/
>
> _______________________________________________
> evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
Michael Zucchi
<notzed@ximian.com>
Ximian Evolution and
Free Software Developer
Novell, Inc.
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On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 01:01 -0400, Michael R Head wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Tue, 2004-04-27 at 12:12 +0800, Not Zed wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 13:26 -0700, Des Dougan wrote: </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> How do you know the mail has been received there?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> You visit it?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I watch the exim/procmail logs on the server and note that evolution</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">doesn't yet know about new mail in those folders. When I visit folders</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">that should have new messages, it then tells me about them. For some</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">folders, it seems to work (notably, the evolution mailing list). Ones</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">that don't seem to work well are my Sent-from/* and Sent-to/*.</FONT>
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But you're hitting a limitation of the IMAP protocol here. It has no way (apart from a just-expired experimental rfc) of informing clients of any changes to any folder outside the currently selected one.<BR>
<BR>
Which is why we have to do some stupid/slow send/receive hacks.
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Send/Receive doesn't seem to do much of anything (anymore) for IMAP. In</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">1.4, it very clearly checked each folder (that is, it displayed a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">message about each folder it was visiting).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have "automatically check for new mail every X minutes" set to 5.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have "check for new mail in all folders" set as well.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have filters turned off, and I have disabled "show only subscribed</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">folders" (though I have them all subscribed for thunderbird in windows).</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">My current workaround is to exit evolution and start it up. At startup,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">it seems to find everything just fine.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> When you click 'send/recv' does it fix it?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> What output do you get from the terminal (when you run it from a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> terminal)? It should spit a lot of crap about updating unread counts.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I haven't yet run it from the commandline. But I will do it when I get a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">chance.</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">What's the URL for the bug?</FONT>
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this isn't exactly the same but is close enough:
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<A HREF="http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56552">http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56552</A>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Regards,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Des</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > -- </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Des Dougan, Principal</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Dougan Consulting Group</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Ph: 604-980-2848 Email: des at DouganConsulting dot com </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > <A HREF="http://www.DouganConsulting.com">www.DouganConsulting.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > Design - Implementation - Support</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > _______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > evolution maillist - <A HREF="mailto:evolution@lists.ximian.com">evolution@lists.ximian.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > <A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution">http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Michael Zucchi</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <<A HREF="mailto:notzed@ximian.com">notzed@ximian.com</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Ximian Evolution and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Free Software Developer</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Novell, Inc.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-- </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Michael R Head <<A HREF="mailto:burner@suppressingfire.org">burner@suppressingfire.org</A>></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://suppressingfire.org/~burner/">http://suppressingfire.org/~burner/</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">_______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">evolution maillist - <A HREF="mailto:evolution@lists.ximian.com">evolution@lists.ximian.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution">http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution</A></FONT>
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