[Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and 1.5.0
Not Zed
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Note that if you have mail sitting in your outbox, it will keep track of
the setting when the mail was sent (i think).
So make sure you clear it out and send a fresh mail when the setting
changes.
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 15:28 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote:
> Jeff --
>
> I have tried every possible combination of settings to no avail.
> Currently the SSL option is set to "Whenever possible".
>
> Rade
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj@ximian.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:15 PM
> To: rtrimces@mtu.edu
> Cc: evolution@lists.ximian.com
> Subject: RE: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo
> 1.4.5 and 1.5.0
>
>
> On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 14:54 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote:
>
> > Jeff --
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. According to the system administrators of the
> > email server and the directions they give online the smtp server doesn't
> > require SSL authentication when accessed from within the network but
> > _does_ require SSL authentication when accessed from outside the
> > network.
> >
> > According to the server admins:
> > port from mtu.edu from elsewhere
> > SMTP server name: email.mtu.edu 25 SSL optional TLS/SSLv.3
> > required and password authentication required
> >
> > So, if I trust what they say then the server not only supports but
> > requires SSL from outside the network. Now there is no mention of
> > another port for SSL enabled trafic, does that mean that both SSL and
> > non SSL trafic go on port 25? I'm lost, clueless and frustrated :))).
>
>
> yes, it means that their SMTP server presumably supports the
> STARTTLS extension and thus uses port 25 for both.
>
> Try changing your "Use SSL" option for SMTP to "Whenever
> Possible" instead of "Always" if that is what it is already
> set as. "Whenever Possible" uses STARTTLS and doesn't even
> attempt the high port.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Rade
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj@ximian.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:28 PM
> > To: Rade Trimceski
> > Cc: evolution@lists.ximian.com
> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and
> > 1.5.0
> >
> >
> > Sounds like from outside the network, your server doesn't support SSL
> > (eg. perhaps the high port is only accessable from within the network).
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 08:21 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote:
> > Hello all --
> >
> > I've been working at this problem for quite some time and I can't get
> > anywhere so any help I can get will be greately appreciated.
> >
> > My setup:
> > Redhat 9 + Evolution 1.4.5. Evolution accesses a pop3/smtp email server
> > that requires authentication and SSL support. (the email server resides
> > on
> > my university's campus).
> >
> > Problem:
> > When I'm at school where the dhcp server recognizes my MAC address I
> > have
> > no problem sending or receiving email.
> >
> > When I'm at any other place I cannot send an smtp message through my
> > mail
> > server but under windows using Outlook I can (so I know it's not a
> > server
> > problem). When I try to send an email off campus I get the following
> > error
> > from Evolution:
> >
> > Error while performing operation:
> > Failed to connect to SMTP server email.mtu.edu in secure mode: server
> > does
> > not
> > appear to support SSL
> >
> > Interestingly, if I try to send an email from offcapus location (and I
> > can't) the message is left in Outbox. Next time I'm on campus, when i
> > try
> > to send the message I get the following warning message from evolution
> > and
> > the message is sent (when I hit ok):
> >
> > SSL Certificate check for email.mtu.edu:
> >
> > Issuer: OU=Secure Server Certification Authority,O="RSA Data
> > Security, Inc.",C=US
> > Subject: CN=email.mtu.edu,OU=Distributed Computing
> > Services,O=Michigan Technological University,L=Houghton,ST=Michigan,C=US
> > Fingerprint: 93:d8:d8:f7:08:2f:6b:ed:8d:a9:5d:05:2d:4f:22:39
> > Signature: BAD
> >
> > Do you wish to accept?
> >
> > ---
> >
> > This same thing happens with Evolution 1.5.0 so I have a feeling my
> > distribution is involved in causing the problem as much as Evolution is.
> >
> > Any help will be greatly appreciated (Cc me on reply, I'm not subscribed
> > to the list).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rade
> > P.S. If there is any other useful info that I can provide I will be
> > happy
> > to do so.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > evolution maillist - evolution@lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution
> >
> >
Michael Zucchi
<notzed@ximian.com>
Ximian Evolution and
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Novell, Inc.
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Note that if you have mail sitting in your outbox, it will keep track of the setting when the mail was sent (i think).<BR>
<BR>
So make sure you clear it out and send a fresh mail when the setting changes.<BR>
<BR>
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 15:28 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote:<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Jeff --</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">I have tried every possible combination of settings to no avail. Currently the SSL option is set to "Whenever possible".</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Rade</FONT></FONT><BR>
<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:fejj@ximian.com] </FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> Friday, April 30, 2004 3:15 PM</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> rtrimces@mtu.edu</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> evolution@lists.ximian.com</FONT></FONT><BR>
<B><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT COLOR="#000000"><FONT SIZE="2"> RE: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and 1.5.0</FONT></FONT><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 14:54 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote: </FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jeff --</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks for the reply. According to the system administrators of the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">email server and the directions they give online the smtp server doesn't</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">require SSL authentication when accessed from within the network but</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">_does_ require SSL authentication when accessed from outside the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">network.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">According to the server admins:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> port from mtu.edu from elsewhere</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">SMTP server name: email.mtu.edu 25 SSL optional TLS/SSLv.3</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">required and password authentication required</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">So, if I trust what they say then the server not only supports but</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">requires SSL from outside the network. Now there is no mention of</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">another port for SSL enabled trafic, does that mean that both SSL and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">non SSL trafic go on port 25? I'm lost, clueless and frustrated :))).</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">yes, it means that their SMTP server presumably supports the STARTTLS extension and thus uses port 25 for both.</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Try changing your "Use SSL" option for SMTP to "Whenever Possible" instead of "Always" if that is what it is already set as. "Whenever Possible" uses STARTTLS and doesn't even attempt the high port.</FONT><BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jeff</FONT><BR>
<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Regards,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Rade</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Jeffrey Stedfast [mailto:<A HREF="mailto:fejj@ximian.com">fejj@ximian.com</A>] </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:28 PM</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Rade Trimceski</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Cc: <A HREF="mailto:evolution@lists.ximian.com">evolution@lists.ximian.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [Evolution] Problems sending smtp mail in Evo 1.4.5 and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">1.5.0</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Sounds like from outside the network, your server doesn't support SSL</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">(eg. perhaps the high port is only accessable from within the network).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jeff</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 08:21 -0400, Rade Trimceski wrote: </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hello all --</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I've been working at this problem for quite some time and I can't get</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">anywhere so any help I can get will be greately appreciated.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">My setup:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Redhat 9 + Evolution 1.4.5. Evolution accesses a pop3/smtp email server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">that requires authentication and SSL support. (the email server resides</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">my university's campus).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Problem:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">When I'm at school where the dhcp server recognizes my MAC address I</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">have</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">no problem sending or receiving email.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">When I'm at any other place I cannot send an smtp message through my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">mail</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">server but under windows using Outlook I can (so I know it's not a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">problem). When I try to send an email off campus I get the following</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">error</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">from Evolution:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Error while performing operation:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Failed to connect to SMTP server email.mtu.edu in secure mode: server</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">does</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">not</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">appear to support SSL</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Interestingly, if I try to send an email from offcapus location (and I</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">can't) the message is left in Outbox. Next time I'm on campus, when i</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">try</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to send the message I get the following warning message from evolution</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the message is sent (when I hit ok):</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">SSL Certificate check for email.mtu.edu:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Issuer: OU=Secure Server Certification Authority,O="RSA Data</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Security, Inc.",C=US</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: CN=email.mtu.edu,OU=Distributed Computing</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Services,O=Michigan Technological University,L=Houghton,ST=Michigan,C=US</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Fingerprint: 93:d8:d8:f7:08:2f:6b:ed:8d:a9:5d:05:2d:4f:22:39</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Signature: BAD</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Do you wish to accept?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">---</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">This same thing happens with Evolution 1.5.0 so I have a feeling my</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">distribution is involved in causing the problem as much as Evolution is.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Any help will be greatly appreciated (Cc me on reply, I'm not subscribed</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to the list).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Rade</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">P.S. If there is any other useful info that I can provide I will be</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">happy</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">to do so.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">_______________________________________________</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">evolution maillist - <A HREF="mailto:evolution@lists.ximian.com">evolution@lists.ximian.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution">http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolution</A></FONT>
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