From mandel at themacaque.com  Fri Feb  1 11:30:51 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (Manuel de la Pena)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:30:51 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Server for the webpage etc...
Message-ID: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>

Hi guys,

I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the cocoa sharp project;

Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc.. All this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write using the new objc bindings. 

Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we can point the webpage url to the server.

Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,

Manuel
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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 11:40:40 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:40:40 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Server for the webpage etc...
In-Reply-To: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
References: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>

I will post a couple of tutorials and Cocoa-related information once
it's up, if I may.

On Feb 1, 2008 4:30 PM, Manuel de la Pena <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the cocoa
> sharp project;
>
> Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc.. All
> this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write
> using the new objc bindings.
>
> Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we can
> point the webpage url to the server.
>
> Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,
>
> Manuel
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>
>

From rick.martinez at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 13:21:11 2008
From: rick.martinez at gmail.com (Rick Martinez)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Server for the webpage etc...
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
	<49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fc2d7d00802011021k82d7b84w4f2d3971639cc43a@mail.gmail.com>

I am a web developer (It's what I do for a living) and would love to help
out with the Cocoa# site.  Let me know if you'd like me to be the one to
maintain the website and I'll gladly do it.

Best,
Rick

On Feb 1, 2008 11:40 AM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will post a couple of tutorials and Cocoa-related information once
> it's up, if I may.
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:30 PM, Manuel de la Pena <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the
> cocoa
> > sharp project;
> >
> > Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc..
> All
> > this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write
> > using the new objc bindings.
> >
> > Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we
> can
> > point the webpage url to the server.
> >
> > Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,
> >
> > Manuel
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>
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From mh at elitedev.com  Fri Feb  1 15:18:59 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:18:59 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa namespace
In-Reply-To: <EDE87623-8EAD-47FD-B6F2-6133BD8CCA44@mac.com>
References: <EDE87623-8EAD-47FD-B6F2-6133BD8CCA44@mac.com>
Message-ID: <b18909d98b3d936102011cf371d41c7e@localhost>

i agree.but it probably shouldn't be Cocoa, as Cocoa is only a subset. how
about

Mono.ObjC (the core binding itself)
Mono.ObjC.WebKit
Mono.ObjC.FoundationKit
etc

or

Mono.Apple.ObjC (core binding)
Mono.Apple.WebKit
Mono.Apple.FoundationKit
etc

?


On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:01:56 +0000, Russell Hind <rhind at mac.com> wrote:
> In that case, shouldn't it be in
> 
> CocoaSharp.AB
> 
> or
> 
> Cocoa.AB and
> Cocoa.WebKit
> Cocoa.FoundationKit
> 
> I think it ought to be prefixed with a common namespace to avoid
> collision possibilities with other libraries.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Russell
> 
> On 24 Jan 2008, at 17:59, Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2008 9:48 AM, Chuck Esterbrook
>> <chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Another valid alternative would be to use the name prefix as the
>>> namespace since that's the point of the name prefix in Objective-C:
>>> it's a poor man's namespace. So NS.String, NS.TextField, etc.
>>> In .NET,
>>> namespaces can span assemblies so there's not even a problem if we
>>> end
>>> up with multiple .dll's.
>>>
>>> "NS.String" still reads close to the Objective-C and is reasonably
>>> short-and-sweet such that you wouldn't need to say "using NS;".
>>
>> As another example, the namespace for AddressBook would be AB as in
>> AB.Group, AB.Person, etc. See
>> http://www.cocoadev.com/index.pl?AddressBook
>>
>> -Chuck
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp


From mandel at themacaque.com  Sun Feb  3 08:10:13 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:10:13 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
Message-ID: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>

Hi guys,

I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have  
realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back to  
the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation that  
we can use to organize the project.
The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great to  
have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added anything  
because I believe there are a number of things that should be decided  
as a group:

1. What do we have in the webpage?

This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:

News
FAQ
Tutorials (with different categories)
webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
Forum (Not sure about that)
Blogs for contributors (not sure about that)

2. What can the non-registered user see in the webpage?

I think we should allow everyone all the tutorials and news, but make  
them register in case we set up a forum.

On top of the web I can set up email accounts for all the contributors  
as well as a svn or bazaar repo which would be easier to gain access  
than the mono one.

Dammed I nearly forgot it, I have also registered the following web  
domains for the project:

cocoa-sharp.com
cocoa-sharp.info
cocoa-sharp.org

I'd love to have the old cocoasharp.com pointing to the new web and  
have all of them linked together.

I hope this helps the project, let me know what you think,

Manuel


From dru at druware.com  Sun Feb  3 13:13:33 2008
From: dru at druware.com (Andrew Satori)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:13:33 -0500
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>
References: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <CD6F3ED3-3119-4D11-8E9D-2D5D69B90053@druware.com>

IP Address so I can make the DNS changes ?


Andrew Satori - Owner & Janitor Druware Software Designs
Business Solutions for Small Business
http://www.druware.com/



On Feb 3, 2008, at 8:10 AM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back to
> the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation that
> we can use to organize the project.
> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great to
> have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added anything
> because I believe there are a number of things that should be decided
> as a group:
>
> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>
> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>
> News
> FAQ
> Tutorials (with different categories)
> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> Forum (Not sure about that)
> Blogs for contributors (not sure about that)
>
> 2. What can the non-registered user see in the webpage?
>
> I think we should allow everyone all the tutorials and news, but make
> them register in case we set up a forum.
>
> On top of the web I can set up email accounts for all the contributors
> as well as a svn or bazaar repo which would be easier to gain access
> than the mono one.
>
> Dammed I nearly forgot it, I have also registered the following web
> domains for the project:
>
> cocoa-sharp.com
> cocoa-sharp.info
> cocoa-sharp.org
>
> I'd love to have the old cocoasharp.com pointing to the new web and
> have all of them linked together.
>
> I hope this helps the project, let me know what you think,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp

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From mandel at themacaque.com  Mon Feb  4 10:16:03 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace
Message-ID: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>

Hi guys,

I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace  
should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a  
couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones  
opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a  
pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....

Cheers,

Manuel


From mh at elitedev.com  Mon Feb  4 10:29:06 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:29:06 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>

(a)

Mono.ObjC
Mono.ObjC.<FrameworkName>

(b)

Mono.Apple.ObjC
Mono.Apple.<FrameworkName>

(c)

Mono.MacOSX.ObjC
Mono.MacOSX.<FrameworkName>


On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:16 PM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mono-osx mailing list
> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx


From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:30:20 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:30:20 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea!

I just created an account for myself on the site ("Leauki").

Can you enable my account to submit tutorials?


On Feb 4, 2008 3:16 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:32:22 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:32:22 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802040732s28a29089q4cb30b70936a8874@mail.gmail.com>

In that case I'd be for (a).

Apple is too Apple. And MacOSX is only one current implementation of
the ObjC runtime and Cocoa.

On Feb 4, 2008 3:29 PM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> (a)
>
> Mono.ObjC
> Mono.ObjC.<FrameworkName>
>
> (b)
>
> Mono.Apple.ObjC
> Mono.Apple.<FrameworkName>
>
> (c)
>
> Mono.MacOSX.ObjC
> Mono.MacOSX.<FrameworkName>
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:16 PM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> > should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> > couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> > opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> > pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mono-osx mailing list
> > Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Mon Feb  4 11:07:29 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:07:29 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
Message-ID: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>

Hello,

I have just updated the pol, I have added the 3 version plus and  
"other" so far there is just one vote, but I'm sure we will have more  
people voting.

So far Leauki and I are editors, please let me know who wants to help  
with tutorials FAQ etc and I'll "upgrade" their account.

Cheers,

Manuel


From David_Hudson at capgroup.com  Mon Feb  4 11:32:50 2008
From: David_Hudson at capgroup.com (David_Hudson at capgroup.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:32:50 -0800
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <OFB9446359.4D59CA4F-ON882573E5.005AC631-882573E5.005AE899@capgroup.com>

Hi,

Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would like to
start moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages. My username is
"jendave" at the new site.

Thanks
Dave

cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:

> Hi guys,
>
> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back to
> the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation that
> we can use to organize the project.
> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great to
> have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added anything
> because I believe there are a number of things that should be decided
> as a group:
>
> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>
> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>
> News
> FAQ
> Tutorials (with different categories)
> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> Forum (Not sure about that)
> Blogs for contributors (not sure about that)
>


From heizer1 at llnl.gov  Mon Feb  4 13:10:39 2008
From: heizer1 at llnl.gov (Charles E. Heizer1)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:10:39 -0800
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Xcode 3 support...
Message-ID: <C3CC951F.56C6C%heizer1@llnl.gov>

Hello,
I have been learning C# on Windows and have written a few small applications
and for the most part I really like the environment/language. My primary
platform however is a Mac, and I was reading up on Cocoa Sharp and looking
at the tutorials etc. on the Wiki and most of them seem to have been written
for Xcode 2. So, is there any new info on using Xcode3 and the new Interface
Builder for generating the NIB's? I really don't want to go back to Tiger
:-).

Thanks,
- Charles

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 14:07:27 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 19:07:27 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Xcode 3 support...
In-Reply-To: <C3CC951F.56C6C%heizer1@llnl.gov>
References: <C3CC951F.56C6C%heizer1@llnl.gov>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802041107k23bb74c3g8541a4d8bfbacdd@mail.gmail.com>

You can use Xcode 3:

http://www.netneurotic.net/DNET/StupidWordCounter/

On Feb 4, 2008 6:10 PM, Charles E. Heizer1 <heizer1 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have been learning C# on Windows and have written a few small applications
> and for the most part I really like the environment/language. My primary
> platform however is a Mac, and I was reading up on Cocoa Sharp and looking
> at the tutorials etc. on the Wiki and most of them seem to have been written
> for Xcode 2. So, is there any new info on using Xcode3 and the new Interface
> Builder for generating the NIB's? I really don't want to go back to Tiger
> :-).
>
> Thanks,
> - Charles
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Mon Feb  4 15:24:22 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:24:22 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
Message-ID: <20080204132422.xh5li9djy8cgok0k@themacaque.com>

Hello,

Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add articles  
and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links  
that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as well as  
being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box at the  
home page.

Hope you guys like it,

Manuel

> Hi,
> Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would  
> like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages.  
> My username is "jendave" at the new site.

> Thanks
> Dave

> cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:

>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have  
>> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back  
>> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation  
>> that we can use to organize the project.
>> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great  
>> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added  
>> anything because I believe there are a number of things that should  
>> be decided as a group:
>>
>> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>>
>> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>>
>> News
>> FAQ
>> Tutorials (with different categories)
>> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)  
>> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure about  
>> that)
>>




From chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 01:49:20 2008
From: chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com (Chuck Esterbrook)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:49:20 -0800
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if you can customize the "signature" for the mailing list to
point to the appropriate web site(s). See below:

On Feb 4, 2008 8:07 AM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> ...
> _______________________________________________
> Mono-osx mailing list
> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Tue Feb  5 06:08:39 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>

Quoting Chuck Esterbrook <chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com>:

> I wonder if you can customize the "signature" for the mailing list to
> point to the appropriate web site(s). See below:
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 8:07 AM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> ...
>> _______________________________________________
>> Mono-osx mailing list
>> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

Hi,

That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do  
so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice to  
change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.

Cheers,

Manuel


From mh at elitedev.com  Tue Feb  5 06:11:03 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:11:03 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>

Manuel,

> That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do
> so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice to
> change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.

i already updated the CocoaSharp page on mono-project.com ? if you can  
think of any other places you want me to link the new site, let me know.

Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 06:40:50 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:40:50 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
	<770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802050340n49936bb4sbe47681788787168@mail.gmail.com>

That link doesn't work, probably because of the "www".

On Feb 5, 2008 11:11 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> Manuel,
>
> > That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do
> > so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice to
> > change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.
>
> i already updated the CocoaSharp page on mono-project.com ? if you can
> think of any other places you want me to link the new site, let me know.
>
> Yours,
>
> marc hoffman
>
> RemObjects Software
> The Infrastructure Company
> http://www.remobjects.com
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From mh at elitedev.com  Tue Feb  5 06:54:06 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:54:06 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802050340n49936bb4sbe47681788787168@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
	<770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802050340n49936bb4sbe47681788787168@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AD2BEA70-B43E-462A-99DD-C8BAFE38107B@elitedev.com>

Works fine for me!?

On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:

> That link doesn't work, probably because of the "www".
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 11:11 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
>> Manuel,
>>
>>> That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do
>>> so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice  
>>> to
>>> change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.
>>
>> i already updated the CocoaSharp page on mono-project.com ? if you  
>> can
>> think of any other places you want me to link the new site, let me  
>> know.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> marc hoffman
>>
>> RemObjects Software
>> The Infrastructure Company
>> http://www.remobjects.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>>


From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 06:56:51 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 11:56:51 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <AD2BEA70-B43E-462A-99DD-C8BAFE38107B@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
	<770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802050340n49936bb4sbe47681788787168@mail.gmail.com>
	<AD2BEA70-B43E-462A-99DD-C8BAFE38107B@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802050356k53ef52acv53871d15534707b7@mail.gmail.com>

Works for me too now.

Definitely didn't 20 minutes ago, but without the "www" it worked.

DNS changes?

Doesn't matter now.


On Feb 5, 2008 11:54 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> Works fine for me!?
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:
>
> > That link doesn't work, probably because of the "www".
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2008 11:11 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> >> Manuel,
> >>
> >>> That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do
> >>> so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice
> >>> to
> >>> change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.
> >>
> >> i already updated the CocoaSharp page on mono-project.com ? if you
> >> can
> >> think of any other places you want me to link the new site, let me
> >> know.
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >>
> >> marc hoffman
> >>
> >> RemObjects Software
> >> The Infrastructure Company
> >> http://www.remobjects.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> >> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> >> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >>
>
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Tue Feb  5 06:57:14 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:57:14 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Broken link
Message-ID: <20080205045714.wm0436c9w0o04c0c@www.themacaque.com>

Hello,

That's strange, it works perfectly for me... I'll never understand the  
internet :P

Manuel

> That link doesn't work, probably because of the "www".
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 11:11 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> > Manuel,
> >
> > > That is a really good but I don't think I have the priviledges to do
> > > so... Does anyone know who should we talk to? It will also be nice to
> > > change the pointers that u can find at the mono webpage.
> >
> > i already updated the CocoaSharp page on mono-project.com ? if you can
> > think of any other places you want me to link the new site, let me know.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > marc hoffman
> >
> > RemObjects Software
> > The Infrastructure Company
> > http://www.remobjects.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >


From mh at elitedev.com  Tue Feb  5 07:03:42 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 13:03:42 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802050356k53ef52acv53871d15534707b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>
	<94cdd26f0802042249t4cfad7ccw91421f2999a0580d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080205040839.2vop1l0z4oog8008@www.themacaque.com>
	<770A44D5-F165-44B3-B7FE-95CC1D868DB6@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802050340n49936bb4sbe47681788787168@mail.gmail.com>
	<AD2BEA70-B43E-462A-99DD-C8BAFE38107B@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802050356k53ef52acv53871d15534707b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31EF1FA7-B707-48A6-8203-1B7559FF9896@elitedev.com>

> DNS changes?

yeah, sounds like.

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 11:17:44 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:17:44 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080204132422.xh5li9djy8cgok0k@themacaque.com>
References: <20080204132422.xh5li9djy8cgok0k@themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802050817y189e59fbhfc9083f5af125b1e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

How do I modify existing articles? The links in my tutorial don't seem
to work (and can only be copied and pasted).

Also, should it not be "submit tutorials" rather than "summit tutorials"?

Does anybody have any ideas regarding a logo for replacing the current
default mambo logos? Is there a CocoaSharp logo? If not, can we use
the Mono logo and ask Apple if we can use some sort of half-official
Cocoa logo and/or mix the two?

(There are still occasional DNS problems. I think they will go away in time.)

On Feb 4, 2008 8:24 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add articles
> and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links
> that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as well as
> being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box at the
> home page.
>
> Hope you guys like it,
>
> Manuel
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would
> > like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages.
> > My username is "jendave" at the new site.
>
> > Thanks
> > Dave
>
> > cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:
>
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> >> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back
> >> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation
> >> that we can use to organize the project.
> >> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great
> >> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added
> >> anything because I believe there are a number of things that should
> >> be decided as a group:
> >>
> >> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
> >>
> >> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
> >>
> >> News
> >> FAQ
> >> Tutorials (with different categories)
> >> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> >> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure about
> >> that)
> >>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Tue Feb  5 18:34:05 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:34:05 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
Message-ID: <20080205163405.ncw1fln6io40swc0@www.themacaque.com>

Hello,

I have just fixed the errors you mentioned. About editing, every  
author can edit his articles as soon as they are public. To edit them  
you have to click in the logo (a pen and note book) that is next to  
the articles title, that should show you the editor.

I also have really good news, Rick Martinez has offer his help to  
change the web looks and he is working in a number of designs, these  
will be posted in the web with an appropriate pol to be as democratic  
as possible. We should all thank him for his effort (gracias).

I hope this helps,

Manuel

PS: If anyone has not been in the web and votes for the namespace  
name, please do so, I'm planning to take the pol down this Sunday.

www.cocoa-sharp.com


> Hi,
>
> How do I modify existing articles? The links in my tutorial don't seem
> to work (and can only be copied and pasted).
>
> Also, should it not be "submit tutorials" rather than "summit tutorials"?
>
> Does anybody have any ideas regarding a logo for replacing the current
> default mambo logos? Is there a CocoaSharp logo? If not, can we use
> the Mono logo and ask Apple if we can use some sort of half-official
> Cocoa logo and/or mix the two?
>
> (There are still occasional DNS problems. I think they will go away in time.)
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 8:24 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add articles
> > and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links
> > that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as well as
> > being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box at the
> > home page.
> >
> > Hope you guys like it,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would
> > > like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages.
> > > My username is "jendave" at the new site.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:
> > >
> > >> Hi guys,
> > >>
> > >> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> > >> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back
> > >> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation
> > >> that we can use to organize the project.
> > >> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great
> > >> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added
> > >> anything because I believe there are a number of things that should
> > >> be decided as a group:
> > >>
> > >> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
> > >>
> > >> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
> > >>
> > >> News
> > >> FAQ
> > >> Tutorials (with different categories)
> > >> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> > >> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure about
> > >> that)
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >



From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 08:48:34 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:48:34 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080205163405.ncw1fln6io40swc0@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080205163405.ncw1fln6io40swc0@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802070548y574eaa2fue2159ffd940da592@mail.gmail.com>

"Mono 1.2.6 Bundle is out"

Should the newest news not be on top?



On Feb 5, 2008 11:34 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just fixed the errors you mentioned. About editing, every
> author can edit his articles as soon as they are public. To edit them
> you have to click in the logo (a pen and note book) that is next to
> the articles title, that should show you the editor.
>
> I also have really good news, Rick Martinez has offer his help to
> change the web looks and he is working in a number of designs, these
> will be posted in the web with an appropriate pol to be as democratic
> as possible. We should all thank him for his effort (gracias).
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Manuel
>
> PS: If anyone has not been in the web and votes for the namespace
> name, please do so, I'm planning to take the pol down this Sunday.
>
> www.cocoa-sharp.com
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > How do I modify existing articles? The links in my tutorial don't seem
> > to work (and can only be copied and pasted).
> >
> > Also, should it not be "submit tutorials" rather than "summit tutorials"?
> >
> > Does anybody have any ideas regarding a logo for replacing the current
> > default mambo logos? Is there a CocoaSharp logo? If not, can we use
> > the Mono logo and ask Apple if we can use some sort of half-official
> > Cocoa logo and/or mix the two?
> >
> > (There are still occasional DNS problems. I think they will go away in time.)
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2008 8:24 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add articles
> > > and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links
> > > that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as well as
> > > being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box at the
> > > home page.
> > >
> > > Hope you guys like it,
> > >
> > > Manuel
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would
> > > > like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages.
> > > > My username is "jendave" at the new site.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi guys,
> > > >>
> > > >> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> > > >> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back
> > > >> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation
> > > >> that we can use to organize the project.
> > > >> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great
> > > >> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added
> > > >> anything because I believe there are a number of things that should
> > > >> be decided as a group:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
> > > >>
> > > >> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
> > > >>
> > > >> News
> > > >> FAQ
> > > >> Tutorials (with different categories)
> > > >> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> > > >> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure about
> > > >> that)
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> > >
>
>
>

From mandel at themacaque.com  Thu Feb  7 09:23:28 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:23:28 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802070548y574eaa2fue2159ffd940da592@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080205163405.ncw1fln6io40swc0@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802070548y574eaa2fue2159ffd940da592@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080207072328.00wyslqupwkg44k8@www.themacaque.com>



Ups, you are right, problem has been solved.

Cheers,

Manuel

PS: If you have not voted in the namespace pol, please do so, it will  
be closed on Sunday.

Quoting Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com>:

> "Mono 1.2.6 Bundle is out"
>
> Should the newest news not be on top?
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2008 11:34 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have just fixed the errors you mentioned. About editing, every
>> author can edit his articles as soon as they are public. To edit them
>> you have to click in the logo (a pen and note book) that is next to
>> the articles title, that should show you the editor.
>>
>> I also have really good news, Rick Martinez has offer his help to
>> change the web looks and he is working in a number of designs, these
>> will be posted in the web with an appropriate pol to be as democratic
>> as possible. We should all thank him for his effort (gracias).
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Manuel
>>
>> PS: If anyone has not been in the web and votes for the namespace
>> name, please do so, I'm planning to take the pol down this Sunday.
>>
>> www.cocoa-sharp.com
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > How do I modify existing articles? The links in my tutorial don't seem
>> > to work (and can only be copied and pasted).
>> >
>> > Also, should it not be "submit tutorials" rather than "summit tutorials"?
>> >
>> > Does anybody have any ideas regarding a logo for replacing the current
>> > default mambo logos? Is there a CocoaSharp logo? If not, can we use
>> > the Mono logo and ask Apple if we can use some sort of half-official
>> > Cocoa logo and/or mix the two?
>> >
>> > (There are still occasional DNS problems. I think they will go   
>> away in time.)
>> >
>> > On Feb 4, 2008 8:24 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add articles
>> > > and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links
>> > > that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as well as
>> > > being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box at the
>> > > home page.
>> > >
>> > > Hope you guys like it,
>> > >
>> > > Manuel
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > > Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would
>> > > > like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google webpages.
>> > > > My username is "jendave" at the new site.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > > cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008 05:10:13 AM:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Hi guys,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
>> > > >> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back
>> > > >> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation
>> > > >> that we can use to organize the project.
>> > > >> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great
>> > > >> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added
>> > > >> anything because I believe there are a number of things that should
>> > > >> be decided as a group:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> News
>> > > >> FAQ
>> > > >> Tutorials (with different categories)
>> > > >> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
>> > > >> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure about
>> > > >> that)
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>> > > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>> > > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>




From dru at druware.com  Fri Feb  8 15:57:00 2008
From: dru at druware.com (Andrew Satori)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 15:57:00 -0500
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080207072328.00wyslqupwkg44k8@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080205163405.ncw1fln6io40swc0@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802070548y574eaa2fue2159ffd940da592@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080207072328.00wyslqupwkg44k8@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <A8035424-A12F-4526-9723-5E31CA02C100@druware.com>

Alright, www.cocoasharp.org has been changed to reflect the new site.   
The DNS should propogate in the next 24 hours.  I'll be taking the  
content off the old one momentarily.


Andrew Satori - Owner & Janitor Druware Software Designs
Business Solutions for Small Business
http://www.druware.com/



On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:23 AM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

>
>
> Ups, you are right, problem has been solved.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> PS: If you have not voted in the namespace pol, please do so, it will
> be closed on Sunday.
>
> Quoting Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com>:
>
>> "Mono 1.2.6 Bundle is out"
>>
>> Should the newest news not be on top?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2008 11:34 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have just fixed the errors you mentioned. About editing, every
>>> author can edit his articles as soon as they are public. To edit  
>>> them
>>> you have to click in the logo (a pen and note book) that is next to
>>> the articles title, that should show you the editor.
>>>
>>> I also have really good news, Rick Martinez has offer his help to
>>> change the web looks and he is working in a number of designs, these
>>> will be posted in the web with an appropriate pol to be as  
>>> democratic
>>> as possible. We should all thank him for his effort (gracias).
>>>
>>> I hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Manuel
>>>
>>> PS: If anyone has not been in the web and votes for the namespace
>>> name, please do so, I'm planning to take the pol down this Sunday.
>>>
>>> www.cocoa-sharp.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> How do I modify existing articles? The links in my tutorial don't  
>>>> seem
>>>> to work (and can only be copied and pasted).
>>>>
>>>> Also, should it not be "submit tutorials" rather than "summit  
>>>> tutorials"?
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any ideas regarding a logo for replacing the  
>>>> current
>>>> default mambo logos? Is there a CocoaSharp logo? If not, can we use
>>>> the Mono logo and ask Apple if we can use some sort of half- 
>>>> official
>>>> Cocoa logo and/or mix the two?
>>>>
>>>> (There are still occasional DNS problems. I think they will go
>>> away in time.)
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 8:24 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone that has created a user at the webpage can now add  
>>>>> articles
>>>>> and FAQs, I'm also going to enable the possibility to upload links
>>>>> that the people consider useful and relevant to the project as  
>>>>> well as
>>>>> being able to add news feeds so we can see them in the news box  
>>>>> at the
>>>>> home page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope you guys like it,
>>>>>
>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Looks good. Can you enable editing for registered users? I would
>>>>>> like to start > moving over the tutorials from the Google  
>>>>>> webpages.
>>>>>> My username is "jendave" at the new site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cocoa-sharp-bounces at lists.ximian.com wrote on 02/03/2008  
>>>>>> 05:10:13 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I  
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go  
>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>> to the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo  
>>>>>>> installation
>>>>>>> that we can use to organize the project.
>>>>>>> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be  
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> to have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added
>>>>>>> anything because I believe there are a number of things that  
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be decided as a group:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> News
>>>>>>> FAQ
>>>>>>> Tutorials (with different categories)
>>>>>>> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
>>>>>>> Forum (Not sure about that) Blogs for contributors (not sure  
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> that)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>>>>> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>>>>> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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From yoavhacohen at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:32:32 2008
From: yoavhacohen at gmail.com (Yoav Hacohen)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:32:32 +0200
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx]  Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>

Mono.OSX.Cocoa

On Feb 4, 2008 5:30 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good idea!
>
> I just created an account for myself on the site ("Leauki").
>
> Can you enable my account to submit tutorials?
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 3:16 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> > should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> > couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> > opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> > pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From david at apollo-medical.com  Wed Feb 13 14:08:14 2008
From: david at apollo-medical.com (David Jehring)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:08:14 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] SVN location
Message-ID: <C3D8F09E.41EB%david@apollo-medical.com>

The ?how to contribute? page on cocoa-sharp.com states that svn for the
project is hosted on svn.myrealbox.com, having tried unsuccessfully to
connect to this I did some research and found a number of links suggesting
that this was moved some time ago to anonsvn.mono-project.com (
http://archives.devshed.com/forums/development-94/fwd-new-anonymous-subversi
on-hostname-2297306.html ). I can certainly connect and check out the
cocoa-sharp source from here but there appears to be nothing since 3rd
November 2007. Is this correct, or is there another source I need to use ?

TIA

David

David Jehring
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From mh at elitedev.com  Wed Feb 13 15:06:43 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:06:43 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] SVN location
In-Reply-To: <C3D8F09E.41EB%david@apollo-medical.com>
References: <C3D8F09E.41EB%david@apollo-medical.com>
Message-ID: <1B57D060-785D-405C-8C53-92F4C9833ED4@elitedev.com>

David,

> The ?how to contribute? page on cocoa-sharp.com states that svn for  
> the project is hosted on svn.myrealbox.com, having tried  
> unsuccessfully to connect to this I did some research and found a  
> number of links suggesting that this was moved some time ago to  
> anonsvn.mono-project.com ( http://archives.devshed.com/forums/development-94/fwd-new-anonymous-subversion-hostname-2297306.html 
>  ).


> I can certainly connect and check out the cocoa-sharp source from  
> here but there appears to be nothing since 3rd November 2007. Is  
> this correct, or is there another source I need to use ?

That sounds about right, yes. iirc it hasd been discussed and agreed  
to stick to the Mono repository, rather than creating a second branch  
elsehwhere?


marc hoffman
http://elitedev.com






From mh at elitedev.com  Fri Feb 15 16:27:12 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:27:12 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Two new articles on Cocoa# with Chrome
Message-ID: <D28F62B0-1769-49B5-9745-1526EC06B97E@elitedev.com>

These have been a long time coming, but over the past weekend i  
finally got around two finishing two articles i have been working on  
about using Chrome and our Data Abstract library to build Cocoa# apps.

The first article, CH07, gives a general overview of the IDE and  
compile-time support Chrome 'Joyride' brings for developing Mono apps  
on the Mac. DA35 takes this a step further by adding Data Abstract to  
the mix and creating a front-end app for our public bug database DA  
Server.

Check my blog at http://www.marchoffman.de/206 for more details & the  
actual articles.

Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From ron_grove at yahoo.com  Sat Feb 16 02:48:45 2008
From: ron_grove at yahoo.com (Ron Grove)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:48:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Two new articles on Cocoa# with Chrome
Message-ID: <693715.37399.qm@web56002.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Very Cool! :-)  Thanks Marc.  I'm thinking of getting a MacBook Pro next month.  If so I'll finally be able to start putting some of the new functinality to work as well as finally be in a position to help out around here.  Mostly just lurking at this point, but a serious lurker if there is such a thing. :-)

On a side note, you should try to get on the .NET Rocks podcast with this stuff (in addition to the RODA tools of course).  They just had Geoff and Miguel on a couple weeks ago so perhaps they'd consider it since this is putting their discussion with the Mono team into real world practice.

Thank you,
Ron 

----- Original Message ----
From: marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com>
To: mono-osx at lists.ximian.com; cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 1:27:12 PM
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Two new articles on Cocoa# with Chrome

These have been a long time coming, but over the past weekend i  
finally got around two finishing two articles i have been working on  
about using Chrome and our Data Abstract library to build Cocoa# apps.

The first article, CH07, gives a general overview of the IDE and  
compile-time support Chrome 'Joyride' brings for developing Mono apps  
on the Mac. DA35 takes this a step further by adding Data Abstract to  
the mix and creating a front-end app for our public bug database DA  
Server.

Check my blog at http://www.marchoffman.de/206 for more details & the  
actual articles.

Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com




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From mandel at themacaque.com  Sat Feb 16 06:34:44 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:34:44 -0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Contributing some code
Message-ID: <20080216043444.63fg0imsj4sw4co0@www.themacaque.com>

Hi guys,

I'm willing to start doing some coding while I'm trying to sort out  
the look of the webpage. Did you agreed on anything when you where at  
irc last time (sorry I could make it). I'd love to try and do the  
bindings between the Addressbook framework and C# if that is possible  
and available.

I would also love to know who is contributing in the code and in what  
to be able to put it in the webpage.

Cheers,

Manuel


From cpeterso at cpeterso.com  Sun Feb 17 17:43:21 2008
From: cpeterso at cpeterso.com (Chris Peterson)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:43:21 -0800
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa.MenuItem.SubMenu in SVN but not mono-1.2.6_6?
Message-ID: <a24804730802171443r74cb1da2nc0aa207ff0a1e892@mail.gmail.com>

I was looking for API docs for Cocoa.Sharp, but I couldn't find any online
or deduce how to use monodocs2html.exe to process the monodocs.

I stumbled into the mono SVN repository to read the Cocoa.Sharp source code
and raw .xml docs. Unfortunately, the cocoa-sharp.dll (version 1.9.0.0?)
that ships with mono-1.2.6_6 seems to lack some methods that are in SVN. Is
there a more recent release of cocoa-sharp.dll?

Specifically, the Cocoa.MenuItem in SVN has a public property called
"SubMenu":

[1]
http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/source/trunk/cocoa-sharp/src/Cocoa/MenuItem.cs

But I get the following compiler error when I try to access
Cocoa.MenuItem.SubMenu in the cocoa-sharp.dll that ships with mono 1.2.6_6:

error CS0117: `Cocoa.MenuItem' does not contain a definition for `SubMenu'

I need Cocoa.MenuItem.SubMenu to create an application menu that has an
operable Quit menu item (without having to create a .nib file).


thanks,
chris
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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 05:26:02 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx]  Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>

Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?

I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using Cocoa;".

I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)

Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.

Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
the issue?

What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?

From mh at elitedev.com  Wed Feb 20 05:36:36 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:36:36 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx]  Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>

> Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?
>
> I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using  
> Cocoa;".
>
> I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
> the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)
>
> Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
> than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.
>
> Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
> the issue?
>
> What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?

mainly that Cocoa is one of many frameworks that can be made  
accessible thru the ObjC binding. this has been discussed at length on  
the list a couple of weeks back, fwiw.


Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 05:51:37 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:51:37 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
	<0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802200251x7205ff3cw1c4be86518c32088@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, I participated in that discussion. But then I heard about the
reverse binding and started thinking that it will be confusing.

Should be interesting...

On Feb 20, 2008 10:36 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
>
> > Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?
> >
> > I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using
> > Cocoa;".
> >
> > I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
> > the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)
> >
> > Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
> > than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.
> >
> > Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
> > the issue?
> >
> > What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?
>
> mainly that Cocoa is one of many frameworks that can be made
> accessible thru the ObjC binding. this has been discussed at length on
> the list a couple of weeks back, fwiw.
>
>
> Yours,
>
> marc hoffman
>
> RemObjects Software
> The Infrastructure Company
> http://www.remobjects.com
>
>
>
>
>

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 08:12:01 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:12:01 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp Web site
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802210512u41abea0fka2f8ec1592447c8a@mail.gmail.com>

For some reason the links in my article occasionally stop working. I
usually fix this by editing the article and resetting them.

Any ideas why that happens?

And does anybody want to make the site look a bit nicer?

I would do it, if nobody volunteers, but I need to know which Mono
logos I can/should use and want everyone to know that I have the
artistic abilities of a potato when it comes to Web design.

From rick.martinez at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 09:27:44 2008
From: rick.martinez at gmail.com (Rick Martinez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:27:44 -0500
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp Web site
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802210512u41abea0fka2f8ec1592447c8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802210512u41abea0fka2f8ec1592447c8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fc2d7d00802210627k4a376667r754a5fc9f90bd126@mail.gmail.com>

I do web development for a living and I'm actually in the process of
preparing some designs for you guys to see.  I'll let you know when
I'm done. :)

Rick

On 2/21/08, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
> For some reason the links in my article occasionally stop working. I
>  usually fix this by editing the article and resetting them.
>
>  Any ideas why that happens?
>
>  And does anybody want to make the site look a bit nicer?
>
>  I would do it, if nobody volunteers, but I need to know which Mono
>  logos I can/should use and want everyone to know that I have the
>  artistic abilities of a potato when it comes to Web design.
>  _______________________________________________
>  Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>  Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>  http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 10:15:32 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:15:32 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp Web site
In-Reply-To: <1fc2d7d00802210627k4a376667r754a5fc9f90bd126@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802210512u41abea0fka2f8ec1592447c8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1fc2d7d00802210627k4a376667r754a5fc9f90bd126@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802210715p6a1a2eabh951c9bc2e86e4d32@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent... excellent... everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen.

Uhm... I mean I am glad about that.



On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Rick Martinez <rick.martinez at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do web development for a living and I'm actually in the process of
>  preparing some designs for you guys to see.  I'll let you know when
>  I'm done. :)
>
>  Rick
>
>
>
>  On 2/21/08, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > For some reason the links in my article occasionally stop working. I
>  >  usually fix this by editing the article and resetting them.
>  >
>  >  Any ideas why that happens?
>  >
>  >  And does anybody want to make the site look a bit nicer?
>  >
>  >  I would do it, if nobody volunteers, but I need to know which Mono
>  >  logos I can/should use and want everyone to know that I have the
>  >  artistic abilities of a potato when it comes to Web design.
>  >  _______________________________________________
>  >  Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>  >  Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>  >  http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>  >
>

From hung.dnc at gmail.com  Thu Feb 21 21:17:56 2008
From: hung.dnc at gmail.com (Dinh Ngoc Hung)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:17:56 +0700
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Influently resizing-window with Cocoa#
Message-ID: <C3E443C4.1F8%hung.dnc@gmail.com>

A problem when programming Cocoa#
I don?t know if anyone else have a problem like me. When the application
window resize, it?s not fluently as any other window. Maybe anyone already
had a solution for this thing.

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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 07:24:54 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:24:54 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>

After experimenting with Cocoa# a bit I have started a very small project.

It's a cross-platform /etc/hosts file editor.

I have a first version running on Windows and Mac OS X (using
Winforms). I don't spend much time on it.

Features it has:

- Winforms support
- separate classes and files for file system and GUI interaction
- determines location of hosts file depending on platform
- loads hosts file
- saves hosts file

Features I want in it:

- Cocoa GUI for Mac OS X version
- import hosts file from another machine on the network
- push hosts file to another machine on the network
- push hosts file to several machines on the network
- synchronise hosts file from several machines (maybe)
- some regular expression tricks to check the hosts file format (at some point)
- whatever seems helpful (pinging names in the hosts file etc.)

I currently use a number of scripts to keep my hosts files in sync in
my home network.

I named it "StupidHostsEditor".

Yes, I know it's small and primitive, but I am stupid and lazy.

Regards,
Andrew.

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 18:55:20 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:55:20 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>

How can I get a Cocoa# program to do something when the window loads?

[Export("awakeFromNib:")]
public void awakeFromNib()
        {
            // whatever...
        }

That doesn't seem to work.

I did set my class as the delegate for the window, the application,
and the file owner.

Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
multiline NSTextField?




On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
> After experimenting with Cocoa# a bit I have started a very small project.
>
>  It's a cross-platform /etc/hosts file editor.
>
>  I have a first version running on Windows and Mac OS X (using
>  Winforms). I don't spend much time on it.
>
>  Features it has:
>
>  - Winforms support
>  - separate classes and files for file system and GUI interaction
>  - determines location of hosts file depending on platform
>  - loads hosts file
>  - saves hosts file
>
>  Features I want in it:
>
>  - Cocoa GUI for Mac OS X version
>  - import hosts file from another machine on the network
>  - push hosts file to another machine on the network
>  - push hosts file to several machines on the network
>  - synchronise hosts file from several machines (maybe)
>  - some regular expression tricks to check the hosts file format (at some point)
>  - whatever seems helpful (pinging names in the hosts file etc.)
>
>  I currently use a number of scripts to keep my hosts files in sync in
>  my home network.
>
>  I named it "StupidHostsEditor".
>
>  Yes, I know it's small and primitive, but I am stupid and lazy.
>
>  Regards,
>  Andrew.
>

From chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com  Mon Feb 25 21:02:51 2008
From: chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com (Chuck Esterbrook)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:02:51 -0800
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
> How can I get a Cocoa# program to do something when the window loads?
>
>  [Export("awakeFromNib:")]
>  public void awakeFromNib()
>         {
>             // whatever...
>         }
>
>  That doesn't seem to work.

Disclaimer: I haven't even used Cocoa# yet. (But I used to crank out
Objective-C and AppKit all day long for years back in the 90s.)

I notice the Objective-C name indicates one argument (one colon) and
your C# method has none. Try changing the C# method to:

public void awakeFromNib(object sender)

>  Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>  multiline NSTextField?

Check out NSTextView.

-Chuck

From millenomi at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 01:43:46 2008
From: millenomi at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4oie?=)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:43:46 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7400D628-4790-4527-B828-BDAA475A195D@gmail.com>

No: awakeFromNib takes no arguments. Remove the argument and the colon  
from Export and it'll work.

  - ev


Il giorno 26/feb/08, alle ore 03:02, "Chuck Esterbrook" <chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com 
 > ha scritto:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> How can I get a Cocoa# program to do something when the window loads?
>>
>> [Export("awakeFromNib:")]
>> public void awakeFromNib()
>>        {
>>            // whatever...
>>        }
>>
>> That doesn't seem to work.
>
> Disclaimer: I haven't even used Cocoa# yet. (But I used to crank out
> Objective-C and AppKit all day long for years back in the 90s.)
>
> I notice the Objective-C name indicates one argument (one colon) and
> your C# method has none. Try changing the C# method to:
>
> public void awakeFromNib(object sender)
>
>> Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>> multiline NSTextField?
>
> Check out NSTextView.
>
> -Chuck
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 04:31:13 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:31:13 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <7400D628-4790-4527-B828-BDAA475A195D@gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<7400D628-4790-4527-B828-BDAA475A195D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802260131m5a0a5fe4r4188a5ef1bba8958@mail.gmail.com>

I thought it didn't take any arguments. Didn't think about what the
colon represented in the Export statement.

Ta.


On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 6:43 AM, ? <millenomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> No: awakeFromNib takes no arguments. Remove the argument and the colon
>  from Export and it'll work.
>
>   - ev
>
>
>  Il giorno 26/feb/08, alle ore 03:02, "Chuck Esterbrook" <chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com
>   > ha scritto:
>
>
>
>  > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com>
>  > wrote:
>  >> How can I get a Cocoa# program to do something when the window loads?
>  >>
>  >> [Export("awakeFromNib:")]
>  >> public void awakeFromNib()
>  >>        {
>  >>            // whatever...
>  >>        }
>  >>
>  >> That doesn't seem to work.
>  >
>  > Disclaimer: I haven't even used Cocoa# yet. (But I used to crank out
>  > Objective-C and AppKit all day long for years back in the 90s.)
>  >
>  > I notice the Objective-C name indicates one argument (one colon) and
>  > your C# method has none. Try changing the C# method to:
>  >
>  > public void awakeFromNib(object sender)
>  >
>  >> Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>  >> multiline NSTextField?
>  >
>  > Check out NSTextView.
>  >
>  > -Chuck
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
>  > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
>  > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
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>  http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 04:32:09 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:32:09 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802260132v4dbdafd8w5d4841f5455f614e@mail.gmail.com>

>  >  Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>  >  multiline NSTextField?
>
>  Check out NSTextView.
>

I did, but then went back to NSTextField. NSTextView doesn't seem to
have any straightforward way to put text into it and read text from
it.

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 04:52:29 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:52:29 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802260132v4dbdafd8w5d4841f5455f614e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802260132v4dbdafd8w5d4841f5455f614e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802260152r1da4c66am2073b9e26e8b1617@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >  Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>  >  >  multiline NSTextField?
>  >
>  >  Check out NSTextView.
>  >
>
>  I did, but then went back to NSTextField. NSTextView doesn't seem to
>  have any straightforward way to put text into it and read text from
>  it.
>

I found this helpful resource:

http://www.borkware.com/quickies/one?topic=NSTextView

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Tue Feb 26 15:50:09 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:50:09 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:02 AM, Chuck Esterbrook
<chuck.esterbrook at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  Also, and this is perhaps a stupid question, how do I create a
>  >  multiline NSTextField?
>
>  Check out NSTextView.
>

"`Cocoa.TextView' does not contain a definition for `textStorage'"

Any ideas?

From mh at elitedev.com  Thu Feb 28 04:13:08 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:13:08 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6DE88DA3-3D1E-4C30-9BD3-0338E4F2DF98@elitedev.com>

> "`Cocoa.TextView' does not contain a definition for `textStorage'"

You'll probably need to add a mapping for it, yourself.

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 05:01:45 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:01:45 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <6DE88DA3-3D1E-4C30-9BD3-0338E4F2DF98@elitedev.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DE88DA3-3D1E-4C30-9BD3-0338E4F2DF98@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802280201i7cefccear1c276a3f9b4678e1@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> > "`Cocoa.TextView' does not contain a definition for `textStorage'"
>
>  You'll probably need to add a mapping for it, yourself.
>

Should be interesting. I have no idea how to do that.

Back to reading documentation and source code, I suppose.

From mh at elitedev.com  Thu Feb 28 12:13:58 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:13:58 +0100
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802280201i7cefccear1c276a3f9b4678e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DE88DA3-3D1E-4C30-9BD3-0338E4F2DF98@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802280201i7cefccear1c276a3f9b4678e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0154256C-89A1-4CB5-826B-D184B4AC7CA9@elitedev.com>

Andrew,

> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 9:13 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
>>> "`Cocoa.TextView' does not contain a definition for `textStorage'"
>>
>> You'll probably need to add a mapping for it, yourself.
>>
>
> Should be interesting. I have no idea how to do that.

> Back to reading documentation and source code, I suppose.

if you have the Objective-C method header declaration, you can use http://rorox.remobjects.com/CocoaMethodHeaderConverter.zip 
  (unsupported and far from finished;) to turn that into a C# (or  
Chrome) wrapper method you can add to the CocoaSharp class.

hth,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com

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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 12:45:36 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:45:36 +0000
Subject: [Cocoa-sharp] Open Source Project (tiny one)
In-Reply-To: <0154256C-89A1-4CB5-826B-D184B4AC7CA9@elitedev.com>
References: <49f8fc020802250424l5bb2b067x32d52f67e62ac5a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802251555g4421614aoc4689639ea611d03@mail.gmail.com>
	<94cdd26f0802251802n323e4eadic4c6a8a774db8690@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802261250w4cc76bd6x571827153399b2a9@mail.gmail.com>
	<6DE88DA3-3D1E-4C30-9BD3-0338E4F2DF98@elitedev.com>
	<49f8fc020802280201i7cefccear1c276a3f9b4678e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0154256C-89A1-4CB5-826B-D184B4AC7CA9@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802280945p1224e90ck470da15f26143562@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:13 PM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
>
>  if you have the Objective-C method header declaration, you can use http://rorox.remobjects.com/CocoaMethodHeaderConverter.zip
>   (unsupported and far from finished;) to turn that into a C# (or
>  Chrome) wrapper method you can add to the CocoaSharp class.
>

I'll have a look.

I suppose the Objective-C declaration is somewhere in the Apple SDK.

Ta!