[Cocoa-sharp] [Mono-list] how can i integrate cocoa# into xcode

Mon Jan 21 14:33:01 EST 2008

Unless that meeting falls on Friday 8 PM to 10 PM GMT, I'll be there
(for what it's worth). :)

On Jan 21, 2008 7:29 PM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:
> Manuel,
>
>    Yes its likely better for me to post objc2# so that we can
> collaboratively determine a solid foundation for ALL bindings that
> will use ObjC in the future.  I'll try to get something in SVN by end
> of week; then perhaps we can organize an IRC meeting for all
> interested parties to hash things out.
>
> -g
>
>
> On 21-Jan-08, at 2:11 PM, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm willing to help in the new Cocoa# development, does that main that
> > is better to wait until you post the new code?? If everything is going
> > to be changed we might as well wait until we get your new code.
> >
> > Let me know which is the best way to proceed and which way can I help
> > you.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 13:30 -0500, Geoff Norton wrote:
> >> Removed mono-list cause this has nothing to do with that.
> >>
> >> I am the founder and maintainer of Cocoa# which has languished for
> >> some time but there is some new found interest of late, and my
> >> employment at novell has freed up time to do a better job of
> >> maintainership.
> >>
> >> I didn't start the google group, I dont run it.  It has nothing to do
> >> with the Cocoa# effort as far as I'm concerned.
> >>
> >> All Cocoa# development takes place on cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com.
> >>
> >> I've mentioned in a few places that I've written a binding to
> >> objective-c v2 which will become the new foundation for Cocoa# and
> >> ObjC#.  I hope to land at least some preliminary stuff in svn in the
> >> next week or two to start planning the next generation of cocoa#
> >>
> >> -g
> >>
> >> On 18-Jan-08, at 2:24 PM, Manuel de la Pena wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> Seems that we have some communication problems at cocoa-sharp...
> >>> (big
> >>> ones I'd say) We have two different mailing lists :
> >>>
> >>> cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> >>> cocoa-sharp-dev at googlegroups.com
> >>>
> >>> I really don't understand the mailing list situation:
> >>>
> >>> As in other project we have a dev and non-dev group, but clearly
> >>> cocoa
> >>> should not have a non-dev group. Think about it, we have evolution
> >>> and
> >>> evolution-dev. The evolution one is for the evolution users while
> >>> evolution-dev is for the developers, but in our case we have
> >>> developers in both sides. Do we really want the non-dev one since
> >>> cocoa is a library anyway. On top of this we are having discussions
> >>> about similar things in both and I think things are getting out f
> >>> hand.
> >>>
> >>> On the google one a couple of us have been talking about how to
> >>> write
> >>> some proper documentation, I have offer to use my server to held the
> >>> project (500 gb per moth bandwidth etc.. ) and I don't mind paying
> >>> that. But we seriously have to sort out the group!!!!
> >>>
> >>> I know that there is people that want to help the group and work a
> >>> lot
> >>> but we first have to fix all the problems we have and centralize all
> >>> the info of the project. We have potential coders with the skills
> >>> but
> >>> when they see this situation they get scared.
> >>>
> >>> We need to discuss a solution... please replay to both mailing lists
> >>> so everyone reads it until we decide which one to use.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Manuel
> >>>
> >>> PS: For the time being I recommend everyone to read both.
> >>>
> >>> PS 2: I've also posted this at the mono lists to get some help from
> >>> our big brothers at mono, I'm sure they can give us a hand.
> >>>
> >>> On 18/01/2008, at 18:08, Andreas Färber wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey,
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 18.01.2008 um 17:32 schrieb marc hoffman:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'd love to help out if i can. I've already looked into getting
> >>>>> some
> >>>>> of this
> >>>>> stuff working in Xcode 3 a while back but iirc it failed on the
> >>>>> langspec, and i
> >>>>> couldn't figure out what part it didn't like anymore :(. If you
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> anything
> >>>>> that works better than what's in SVN now, i'd love to have a look.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm still at the stage that I don't see anything of what I've
> >>>> written
> >>>> in Xcode, no new menu item.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Out of curiosity: are you baisn gyour work on any official or
> >>>>> semi-
> >>>>> official
> >>>>> documentation that might be out there (i couldn't find any on
> >>>>> ADC),
> >>>>> or are you
> >>>>> too just doing this by trial-and-error and the few unofficial
> >>>>> infos
> >>>>> that Google
> >>>>> serves up (such as http://maxao.free.fr/xcode-plugin-interface/index.html)?
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not aware of any documentation other than Damien's, and that
> >>>> was
> >>>> not even up-to-date for 2.3. Moreover I see his headers for native
> >>>> ObjC code as problematic (they are GPL, thus any code derived
> >>>> from it
> >>>> becomes GPL while Xcode is not GPL; depending on interpretations,
> >>>> this
> >>>> can be regarded as violation) and instead had a BSD-ish plugin
> >>>> based
> >>>> on Cocoa-sharq; the accompanying spec files were integrated with
> >>>> bridged ObjC code, and ObjC is the part we can pretty much dump
> >>>> first
> >>>> when a new version is out... I used a managed framework to inspect
> >>>> the
> >>>> available classes, their methods and then probed all interesting
> >>>> parameters, and in the end some trial-and-error. I'd like to avoid
> >>>> that work for now!
> >>>>
> >>>> So currently I am trying to deploy my draft spec files to /
> >>>> Developer/
> >>>> Library/Xcode/Specifications but I'm not sure if they are even
> >>>> being
> >>>> picked up there, there are only xctxtmacro files and an xcplugin
> >>>> there. (it would've been handy)
> >>>>
> >>>> There are some files in /Developer/Library/PrivateFrameworks/
> >>>> DevToolsCore.framework/Resources that look the same as in Xcode 2.4
> >>>> (pb*spec). XcodeEdit.Framework has differing "xclangspec" files.
> >>>> ASKPlugin uses an xcspec file containing an old-style language
> >>>> definition (referring to a custom native scanner).
> >>>> Looking at the existing local Xcode files is the closest thing to
> >>>> "documentation" I currently have.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Andreas
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