From dennisdotnet at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  1 01:41:33 2008
From: dennisdotnet at yahoo.com (Dennis Hayes)
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:41:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3957.1201801128.2533.mono-osx@lists.ximian.com>
Message-ID: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I have a fairly simple Winforms app.
  It uses the timer control.
  It reads/writes data from/to \\server\drive\directory\file.txt but that could be changed to the default directory.
   
  We are 100% Windows, but have a couple of people who use Macs at home.
  The home users are not computer people. They edit documents and surf the net. I doubt they have ever even installed software on the Macs.
   
  Everybody will be impressed if my app could be run on these Macs.
   
  Can they just click on the Mac install from the download page, copy my .exe, and run?
  Or will it require any complicated setup or dependancy issues?
   
  Thanks,
  Dennis
   
   

       
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From sergiosamayoa at icon.com.gt  Fri Feb  1 10:16:38 2008
From: sergiosamayoa at icon.com.gt (Sergio Samayoa)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:16:38 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000101c864e5$7c70e140$0a00000a@SSAMAYOA>

> Can they just click on the Mac install from the download page, copy my
.exe, and run?

 

You have to install mono on each one.

 

Regards.

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From mandel at themacaque.com  Fri Feb  1 11:30:51 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (Manuel de la Pena)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:30:51 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] Server for the webpage etc...
Message-ID: <20080201163141.4AF227005B@herald.ximian.com>

Hi guys,

I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the cocoa sharp project;

Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc.. All this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write using the new objc bindings. 

Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we can point the webpage url to the server.

Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,

Manuel
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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 11:40:40 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:40:40 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Server for the webpage etc...
In-Reply-To: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
References: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>

I will post a couple of tutorials and Cocoa-related information once
it's up, if I may.

On Feb 1, 2008 4:30 PM, Manuel de la Pena <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the cocoa
> sharp project;
>
> Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc.. All
> this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write
> using the new objc bindings.
>
> Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we can
> point the webpage url to the server.
>
> Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,
>
> Manuel
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>
>

From mono-osx at iaincollins.com  Fri Feb  1 11:48:28 2008
From: mono-osx at iaincollins.com (Iain Collins)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:48:28 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0346F28B-CBF2-4F64-9F8E-3E96F73D2F6B@iaincollins.com>

On 1 Feb 2008, at 06:41, Dennis Hayes wrote:
> I have a fairly simple Winforms app.
> It uses the timer control.
> It reads/writes data from/to \\server\drive\directory\file.txt but  
> that could be changed to the default directory.
>
> We are 100% Windows, but have a couple of people who use Macs at home.
> The home users are not computer people. They edit documents and surf  
> the net. I doubt they have ever even installed software on the Macs.
>
> Everybody will be impressed if my app could be run on these Macs.
>
> Can they just click on the Mac install from the download page, copy  
> my .exe, and run?
> Or will it require any complicated setup or dependancy issues?


It's possible to create a .app (double clickable extension) that has  
the mono runtime built in to it, which would allow users to just  
double click it and go. Realistically you'd need the assistance of  
someone with a Mac and with some Mac development (and ideally some  
Mono on OS X) experience to help package it up - though that's all  
pretty straightforward really - and if you are interested I'd be happy  
to do that for you if you were to send me a compiled copy of your app.

This would increase the over all size of course, the other option  
being of course to have them install a separate Mono package first.  
Realistically - given the relatively small amount of diskspace that  
would be required - I think you could easily getaway with just  
bundling a mono runtime environment with the app (so that it just runs  
when clicked on).

The downside is that at present they would need to have X11 installed  
(this used to come on the "Developer Tools" CD that came with all Macs  
and copies of Mac OS X, but it's now in an optional extras folder on  
the Mac OS X Install DVD's, although in theory you could bundle a copy  
of X11 with it so it's just double clickable out of the box, but that  
would probably getting on for overkill. :-) * Although that's exactly  
how some X11 based applications are currently distributed.

Needless to say, sadly most users do not have X11 installed already  
(and even with it installed, it's going to have the look and feel of a  
GTK app for Linux, rather than a Mac look and feel). So it really  
depends on your target audience if they are going to find that  
acceptable. I use GIMP under X11 all the time and am very happy with  
it, but I might not be very representative of your userbase. :-)

I gather there is work afoot in the Mono project to allow Winforms  
apps on Mac OS X to have a native look and feel under OS X (I also  
here there is also work being done to allow GTK interfaces to run  
natively with a Mac OS look and feel, although I don't know the status  
of that and the CocoaSharp project is probably a much better bet as a  
hope for the future - it seems like there may be an announcement about  
CocoaSharp development progress coming soon? :-).

It is possible to create a native-look-and-feel Coca App with C#  
backend, but that's a bit more work at the moment (it would require  
some front end glue). It doesn't sound like you'd want to bother  
enough to go down that route, but if you are interested feel free to  
contact me off list about it.

Best regards,

-- 
Iain Collins, me at iaincollins.com
http://iaincollins.com


From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb  1 12:02:02 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <54B8B2E6-19CA-45EC-AAEA-03FB068D1A03@novell.com>


On 1-Feb-08, at 1:41 AM, Dennis Hayes wrote:

> I have a fairly simple Winforms app.
> It uses the timer control.
> It reads/writes data from/to \\server\drive\directory\file.txt but  
> that could be changed to the default directory.
>

You'd have to test it but this should work fine under 1.9 with a  
macpack'd executable so long as the end users have X11 installed  
(default on 10.5) and Mono.framework installed from our website.

Some other emails seem to indicate that it runs in X11, this is untrue  
for the native driver, but we still use fontconfig/freetype for font  
rendering which apple includes with the X11 package.

-g

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From michael.r.caron at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 14:01:12 2008
From: michael.r.caron at gmail.com (Michael Caron)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:01:12 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <54B8B2E6-19CA-45EC-AAEA-03FB068D1A03@novell.com>
Message-ID: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>

I thought that there was a Mono-ized GTK that ran natively in mac with the
Cocoa# libs... or is this put on hold due to the resurgence in Cocoa#. 
 
>From Miguel de Icaza's blog:
 
"We will distribute Imendio's Gtk+ for OSX and Gtk# as part of our runtime.
It has now reached a maturity point that allows applications like
MonoDevelop to run natively (without X11)."
[http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Dec-02-2.html]
 
Or am I thinking something different?
 
Mike
 
-----Original Message-----
From: mono-osx-bounces at lists.ximian.com
[mailto:mono-osx-bounces at lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Norton
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:02 AM
To: Dennis Hayes
Cc: mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
Subject: Re: [Mono-osx] End user question



On 1-Feb-08, at 1:41 AM, Dennis Hayes wrote:


I have a fairly simple Winforms app.
It uses the timer control.
It reads/writes data from/to \\server\drive\directory\file.txt but that
could be changed to the default directory.
 


You'd have to test it but this should work fine under 1.9 with a macpack'd
executable so long as the end users have X11 installed (default on 10.5) and
Mono.framework installed from our website.

Some other emails seem to indicate that it runs in X11, this is untrue for
the native driver, but we still use fontconfig/freetype for font rendering
which apple includes with the X11 package.

-g

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From mono-osx at iaincollins.com  Fri Feb  1 14:10:41 2008
From: mono-osx at iaincollins.com (Iain Collins)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 19:10:41 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
References: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
Message-ID: <2FA294F8-A836-4E17-8447-0163EB4B8875@iaincollins.com>

On 1 Feb 2008, at 19:01, Michael Caron wrote:
> I thought that there was a Mono-ized GTK that ran natively in mac  
> with the Cocoa# libs... or is this put on hold due to the resurgence  
> in Cocoa#.

Geoff Norton was kind enough to clear that up for me after I enquired.

Apparently you just need to set the environment variables  
MONO_MWF_USE_QUARTZ_BACKEND and MONO_MWF_USE_CARBON_BACKEND and it  
runs as described (i.e. as GTK app, but without X11).

Having since tested this works as expected, I didn't realize this was  
the case (I also didn't realize that a X11 package (not including the  
sdk) is now installed by default (on Mac OS X 10.5).

-- 
Iain Collins, me at iaincollins.com
http://iaincollins.com


From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb  1 14:11:59 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:11:59 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
References: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
Message-ID: <D6AE4288-9D72-4536-8E43-EE45A1D37560@novell.com>


On 1-Feb-08, at 2:01 PM, Michael Caron wrote:

> I thought that there was a Mono-ized GTK that ran natively in mac  
> with the Cocoa# libs... or is this put on hold due to the resurgence  
> in Cocoa#.
>
> From Miguel de Icaza's blog:
>
> "We will distribute Imendio's Gtk+ for OSX and Gtk# as part of our  
> runtime. It has now reached a maturity point that allows  
> applications like MonoDevelop to run natively (without X11)."
> [http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Dec-02-2.html]
>
> Or am I thinking something different?
>

You are confused.  There are several gui widget kits available on the  
Mac:

System.Windows.Forms in 2 flavors (on X11; or our new native driver)
Cocoa#
Gtk# (coming soon to a binary build near you)

They're all different things, none really use the other at all.

-g

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From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb  1 14:16:14 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:16:14 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <2FA294F8-A836-4E17-8447-0163EB4B8875@iaincollins.com>
References: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
	<2FA294F8-A836-4E17-8447-0163EB4B8875@iaincollins.com>
Message-ID: <46D0248C-1C59-475C-99F0-BD102AFDA029@novell.com>


On 1-Feb-08, at 2:10 PM, Iain Collins wrote:
>
> Apparently you just need to set the environment variables
> MONO_MWF_USE_QUARTZ_BACKEND and MONO_MWF_USE_CARBON_BACKEND and it
> runs as described (i.e. as GTK app, but without X11).

The env vars are true of running 1.2.6 (with my drivers on my blog  
updated).  In 1.9 they will no longer be required as we're switching  
to the new driver by default.

However, its not running as a Gtk app, it runs as a Mac app.

-g


From mono-osx at iaincollins.com  Fri Feb  1 12:19:11 2008
From: mono-osx at iaincollins.com (Iain Collins)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 17:19:11 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <54B8B2E6-19CA-45EC-AAEA-03FB068D1A03@novell.com>
References: <13327.42893.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<54B8B2E6-19CA-45EC-AAEA-03FB068D1A03@novell.com>
Message-ID: <F7ECA56E-C692-4DDE-9E99-B1E67CA4E037@iaincollins.com>

On 1 Feb 2008, at 17:02, Geoff Norton wrote:
> Some other emails seem to indicate that it runs in X11, this is  
> untrue for the native driver, but we still use fontconfig/freetype  
> for font rendering which apple includes with the X11 package.

I did read something along those lines on the Mono-Project website,  
but - without writing a wrapper - I find that when I build a simple  
Winforms application with Mono 1.2.6 it still runs under X11 when  
executed (whether I use macpack to build a .app or not).

If that is not the intended behavior, any hints as to why that's the  
case?

-- 
Iain Collins, me at iaincollins.com
http://iaincollins.com

From rick.martinez at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 13:21:11 2008
From: rick.martinez at gmail.com (Rick Martinez)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 13:21:11 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Server for the webpage etc...
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080201163141.4B56670086@herald.ximian.com>
	<49f8fc020802010840u6b5e74deuecdf08c599dc1cfa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1fc2d7d00802011021k82d7b84w4f2d3971639cc43a@mail.gmail.com>

I am a web developer (It's what I do for a living) and would love to help
out with the Cocoa# site.  Let me know if you'd like me to be the one to
maintain the website and I'll gladly do it.

Best,
Rick

On Feb 1, 2008 11:40 AM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will post a couple of tutorials and Cocoa-related information once
> it's up, if I may.
>
> On Feb 1, 2008 4:30 PM, Manuel de la Pena <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I have finally upgrade to centos 5 the server I was ofering for the
> cocoa
> > sharp project;
> >
> > Ill set up a cms that we can all use to post different tutorials etc..
> All
> > this will be sorted by late 2night as well as some code I want to write
> > using the new objc bindings.
> >
> > Please let me know if we are finally going to use my server and if we
> can
> > point the webpage url to the server.
> >
> > Let me know all your thoughs ASAP,
> >
> > Manuel
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>
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From michael.r.caron at gmail.com  Fri Feb  1 17:19:17 2008
From: michael.r.caron at gmail.com (Mike Caron)
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:19:17 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] End user question
In-Reply-To: <D6AE4288-9D72-4536-8E43-EE45A1D37560@novell.com>
References: <94AC2C737DFCFE46A9D43568FC8A04A67C7F66@NHQ1ACCOEX06VS1.corporate.amfam.com>
	<D6AE4288-9D72-4536-8E43-EE45A1D37560@novell.com>
Message-ID: <47A39AE5.5050700@gmail.com>

Thanks for clearing that up Geoff!

Geoff Norton wrote:
>
> On 1-Feb-08, at 2:01 PM, Michael Caron wrote:
>
>> I thought that there was a Mono-ized GTK that ran natively in mac 
>> with the Cocoa# libs... or is this put on hold due to the resurgence 
>> in Cocoa#.
>>  
>> From Miguel de Icaza's blog:
>>  
>> "We will distribute Imendio's Gtk+ for OSX and Gtk# as part of our 
>> runtime. It has now reached a maturity point that allows applications 
>> like MonoDevelop to run natively (without X11)."
>> [http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2007/Dec-02-2.html]
>>  
>> Or am I thinking something different?
>>
>
> You are confused.  There are several gui widget kits available on the Mac:
>
> System.Windows.Forms in 2 flavors (on X11; or our new native driver)
> Cocoa#
> Gtk# (coming soon to a binary build near you)
>
> They're all different things, none really use the other at all.
>
> -g
>


From mandel at themacaque.com  Sun Feb  3 08:10:13 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 06:10:13 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Coco sharp project web
Message-ID: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>

Hi guys,

I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have  
realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back to  
the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation that  
we can use to organize the project.
The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great to  
have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added anything  
because I believe there are a number of things that should be decided  
as a group:

1. What do we have in the webpage?

This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:

News
FAQ
Tutorials (with different categories)
webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
Forum (Not sure about that)
Blogs for contributors (not sure about that)

2. What can the non-registered user see in the webpage?

I think we should allow everyone all the tutorials and news, but make  
them register in case we set up a forum.

On top of the web I can set up email accounts for all the contributors  
as well as a svn or bazaar repo which would be easier to gain access  
than the mono one.

Dammed I nearly forgot it, I have also registered the following web  
domains for the project:

cocoa-sharp.com
cocoa-sharp.info
cocoa-sharp.org

I'd love to have the old cocoasharp.com pointing to the new web and  
have all of them linked together.

I hope this helps the project, let me know what you think,

Manuel


From dru at druware.com  Sun Feb  3 13:13:33 2008
From: dru at druware.com (Andrew Satori)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:13:33 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Coco sharp project web
In-Reply-To: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>
References: <20080203061013.oedztku6cgg4c8wc@themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <CD6F3ED3-3119-4D11-8E9D-2D5D69B90053@druware.com>

IP Address so I can make the DNS changes ?


Andrew Satori - Owner & Janitor Druware Software Designs
Business Solutions for Small Business
http://www.druware.com/



On Feb 3, 2008, at 8:10 AM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I finally have good news!!! After fighting with Zoe/Plone, I have
> realized that I'm not their friend... so I have decided to go back to
> the old Apache server. i have set up a clean mambo installation that
> we can use to organize the project.
> The current template is the basic mambo one and it would be great to
> have someone to personalize it!!!!. I have yet not added anything
> because I believe there are a number of things that should be decided
> as a group:
>
> 1. What do we have in the webpage?
>
> This is more or less what I think would be nice to have:
>
> News
> FAQ
> Tutorials (with different categories)
> webLinks (pointer to other projects that are related with urs)
> Forum (Not sure about that)
> Blogs for contributors (not sure about that)
>
> 2. What can the non-registered user see in the webpage?
>
> I think we should allow everyone all the tutorials and news, but make
> them register in case we set up a forum.
>
> On top of the web I can set up email accounts for all the contributors
> as well as a svn or bazaar repo which would be easier to gain access
> than the mono one.
>
> Dammed I nearly forgot it, I have also registered the following web
> domains for the project:
>
> cocoa-sharp.com
> cocoa-sharp.info
> cocoa-sharp.org
>
> I'd love to have the old cocoasharp.com pointing to the new web and
> have all of them linked together.
>
> I hope this helps the project, let me know what you think,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp

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From flavio.antonioli at memopal.com  Mon Feb  4 09:19:20 2008
From: flavio.antonioli at memopal.com (Flavio Antonioli)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:19:20 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] Winforms error
Message-ID: <C9FF979A-A0B3-4C7A-9215-9FFBB5D9206A@memopal.com>

Hello,

I'm trying to port a Winforms application to mono on OSX.
I've tested the application with the Windows Mono runtime and it works,
I get the exception reported below when trying to launch the  
application under OSX (10.4.8 with mono 1.2.6_5).
I get the same error when launching mono with the X11 driver and with  
the native OSX driver (i.e. setting export  
MONO_MWF_USE_QUARTZ_BACKEND=1 and export MONO_MWF_USE_QUARTZ_BACKEND=1).
I've read somewhere that the problem might be solved installing the  
"xorg-fonts" package, but I haven't been able to find any such  
package with fink or macports.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Flavio.

Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception  
was thrown by the type initializer for  
System.Windows.Forms.WindowsFormsSynchronizationContext --->  
System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the  
type initializer for System.Windows.Forms.ThemeEngine --->  
System.ArgumentException: The requested FontFamily could not be found  
[GDI+ status: FontFamilyNotFound]
   at System.Drawing.GDIPlus.CheckStatus (Status status) [0x00000]
   at System.Drawing.FontFamily..ctor (GenericFontFamilies  
genericFamily) [0x00000]
   at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)  
System.Drawing.FontFamily:.ctor  
(System.Drawing.Text.GenericFontFamilies)
   at System.Drawing.FontFamily.get_GenericSansSerif () [0x00000]
   at System.Drawing.Font.CreateFont (System.String familyName,  
Single emSize, FontStyle style, GraphicsUnit unit, Byte charSet,  
Boolean isVertical) [0x00000]
   at System.Drawing.Font..ctor (System.String familyName, Single  
emSize, FontStyle style, GraphicsUnit unit, Byte charSet, Boolean  
isVertical) [0x00000]
   at System.Drawing.Font..ctor (System.String familyName, Single  
emSize, System.String systemName) [0x00000]
   at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check) System.Drawing.Font:.ctor  
(string,single,string)
   at System.Drawing.SystemFonts.get_DefaultFont () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Theme..ctor () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.ThemeWin32Classic..ctor () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.ThemeEngine..cctor () [0x00000] --- End of  
inner exception stack trace ---

   at System.Windows.Forms.Hwnd.GetBorderWidth  
(System.Windows.Forms.CreateParams cp) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Hwnd.GetBorders  
(System.Windows.Forms.CreateParams cp, System.Windows.Forms.Menu  
menu) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Hwnd.GetWindowRectangle  
(System.Windows.Forms.CreateParams cp, System.Windows.Forms.Menu  
menu, Rectangle client_rect) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.XplatUIOSX.CalculateWindowRect  
(System.Drawing.Rectangle& ClientRect,  
System.Windows.Forms.CreateParams cp, System.Windows.Forms.Menu menu,  
System.Drawing.Rectangle& WindowRect) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.XplatUI.CalculateWindowRect  
(System.Drawing.Rectangle& ClientRect,  
System.Windows.Forms.CreateParams cp, System.Windows.Forms.Menu menu,  
System.Drawing.Rectangle& WindowRect) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.InternalSizeFromClientSize (Size  
clientSize) [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ClientSizeFromSize (Size size)  
[0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control..ctor () [0x00000]
   at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)  
System.Windows.Forms.Control:.ctor ()
   at System.Windows.Forms.WindowsFormsSynchronizationContext..cctor  
() [0x00000] --- End of inner exception stack trace ---

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control..ctor () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl..ctor () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl..ctor () [0x00000]
   at System.Windows.Forms.Form..ctor () [0x00000]
   at MA.Utility.InterprocessMessages..ctor () [0x00000]
   at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)  
MA.Utility.InterprocessMessages:.ctor ()
   at MA.MemopalController..ctor () [0x00000]
   at MA.Program.DoRun () [0x00000]
   at MA.Program.Main (System.String[] args) [0x00000]


From mandel at themacaque.com  Mon Feb  4 10:16:03 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace
Message-ID: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>

Hi guys,

I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace  
should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a  
couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones  
opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a  
pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....

Cheers,

Manuel


From mh at elitedev.com  Mon Feb  4 10:29:06 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:29:06 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>

(a)

Mono.ObjC
Mono.ObjC.<FrameworkName>

(b)

Mono.Apple.ObjC
Mono.Apple.<FrameworkName>

(c)

Mono.MacOSX.ObjC
Mono.MacOSX.<FrameworkName>


On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:16 PM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mono-osx mailing list
> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx


From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:30:20 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:30:20 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea!

I just created an account for myself on the site ("Leauki").

Can you enable my account to submit tutorials?


On Feb 4, 2008 3:16 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manuel
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:32:22 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:32:22 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp]  Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<390F0A56-7F60-43FD-BEA5-5849D8D9A317@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802040732s28a29089q4cb30b70936a8874@mail.gmail.com>

In that case I'd be for (a).

Apple is too Apple. And MacOSX is only one current implementation of
the ObjC runtime and Cocoa.

On Feb 4, 2008 3:29 PM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
> (a)
>
> Mono.ObjC
> Mono.ObjC.<FrameworkName>
>
> (b)
>
> Mono.Apple.ObjC
> Mono.Apple.<FrameworkName>
>
> (c)
>
> Mono.MacOSX.ObjC
> Mono.MacOSX.<FrameworkName>
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008, at 4:16 PM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> > should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> > couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> > opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> > pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mono-osx mailing list
> > Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
>

From yoavhacohen at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 10:32:32 2008
From: yoavhacohen at gmail.com (Yoav Hacohen)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 17:32:32 +0200
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>

Mono.OSX.Cocoa

On Feb 4, 2008 5:30 PM, Andrew Brehm <ajbrehm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good idea!
>
> I just created an account for myself on the site ("Leauki").
>
> Can you enable my account to submit tutorials?
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 3:16 PM,  <mandel at themacaque.com> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I' m going to set a poll in the new webpage about which namespace
> > should we use for the project, that conversation was around here a
> > couple of days ago and I though it would be good to know everyones
> > opinion. Please reply to this with you ideas and I'll try to make a
> > pol with all of them, or at least the more interesting ones....
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cocoa-sharp mailing list
> > Cocoa-sharp at lists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/cocoa-sharp
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Mono-osx mailing list
> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
>
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From mandel at themacaque.com  Mon Feb  4 11:07:29 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:07:29 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Cocoa Sharp namespace pol
Message-ID: <20080204090729.ljcb3o9cgcsso8gg@www.themacaque.com>

Hello,

I have just updated the pol, I have added the 3 version plus and  
"other" so far there is just one vote, but I'm sure we will have more  
people voting.

So far Leauki and I are editors, please let me know who wants to help  
with tutorials FAQ etc and I'll "upgrade" their account.

Cheers,

Manuel


From gnorton at novell.com  Tue Feb  5 12:17:33 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:17:33 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
Message-ID: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>

We are proud to announce that we have released Mono v1.2.6_6 for the  
Mac to our download page.

This interim release for the Macintosh includes updated Winforms  
driver, and is the first release to include Gtk# and MonoDevelop.   
Support for these features is stabilizing; however, they should still  
be considered experimental.  Please help us improve this story as we  
approach our 1.9 release by filing bug reports to bugzilla.novell.com

There are no other changes from the standard 1.2.6_5 release outside  
this scope.

Please read the included README for more information.


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From mh at elitedev.com  Tue Feb  5 12:31:50 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:31:50 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Mono-list] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
In-Reply-To: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
References: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
Message-ID: <14246617-F7A1-4908-990E-B751977C5A17@elitedev.com>

Geoff,

am i right to assume this build contains matching SWF and Mono.Mozilla  
dlls, once again?

thanx
marc

On Feb 5, 2008, at 6:17 PM, Geoff Norton wrote:

> We are proud to announce that we have released Mono v1.2.6_6 for the  
> Mac to our download page. This interim release for the Macintosh  
> includes updated Winforms driver, and is the first release to  
> include Gtk# and MonoDevelop. Support for these features is  
> stabilizing; however, they should still be considered experimental.  
> Please help us improve this story as we approach our 1.9 release by  
> filing bug reports to bugzilla.novell.com There are no other changes  
> from the standard 1.2.6_5 release outside this scope. Please read  
> the included README for more information.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mono-list maillist  -  Mono-list at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list


From gnorton at novell.com  Tue Feb  5 12:35:35 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:35:35 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Mono-list] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
In-Reply-To: <14246617-F7A1-4908-990E-B751977C5A17@elitedev.com>
References: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
	<14246617-F7A1-4908-990E-B751977C5A17@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <90D2CBF6-61F6-45A2-BED1-61DD5C3E05AB@novell.com>


On 5-Feb-08, at 12:31 PM, marc hoffman wrote:

> Geoff,
>
> am i right to assume this build contains matching SWF and  
> Mono.Mozilla dlls, once again?
>
> thanx
> marc
>

Yes.

-g


From mandel at themacaque.com  Tue Feb  5 19:38:29 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:38:29 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Compilation error
Message-ID: <20080205173829.f3wxz66l00c4ko0o@www.themacaque.com>

Hello,

This might be a stupid question and I probably know the answer, I have  
just downloaded the bundle you announced and tried to compile objectc  
bindings and I got the following:

cd src && make
gmcs -nowarn:162 *.cs -target:library -out:../test/objc2-sharp.dll
Method.cs(24,82): error CS1644: Feature `collection initializers'  
cannot be used because it is not part of the C# 2.0 language  
specification
Object.cs(74,49): error CS1644: Feature `object initializers' cannot  
be used because it is not part of the C# 2.0 language specification
Compilation failed: 2 error(s), 0 warnings
make[1]: *** [all] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2

Does this mean that I have to download and install the source at the  
svn trunk?

Cheers,

Manuel


From gnorton at novell.com  Tue Feb  5 19:51:57 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:51:57 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Compilation error
In-Reply-To: <20080205173829.f3wxz66l00c4ko0o@www.themacaque.com>
References: <20080205173829.f3wxz66l00c4ko0o@www.themacaque.com>
Message-ID: <70A7E04E-F5D1-447C-9FFB-026801FA4688@novell.com>


On 5-Feb-08, at 7:38 PM, mandel at themacaque.com wrote:

> cd src && make
> gmcs -nowarn:162 *.cs -target:library -out:../test/objc2-sharp.dll
> Method.cs(24,82): error CS1644: Feature `collection initializers'  
> cannot be used because it is not part of the C# 2.0 language  
> specification
> Object.cs(74,49): error CS1644: Feature `object initializers' cannot  
> be used because it is not part of the C# 2.0 language specification
> Compilation failed: 2 error(s), 0 warnings
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 1
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> Does this mean that I have to download and install the source at the  
> svn trunk?
>

Yes.  You need gmcs from trunk; you can try adding -langversion:linq  
to 1.2.6; but I'm not sure if the 1.2.6 compiler was new enough for  
that to work.

-g

From mandel at themacaque.com  Tue Feb  5 19:53:24 2008
From: mandel at themacaque.com (mandel at themacaque.com)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:53:24 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono compilation on MAC OS X
Message-ID: <20080205175324.x8441rbdskocoogo@www.themacaque.com>

Hi guy,

I was trying to compile mono from the trunk and I had the following error:

Error: Cannot load support for ResX format: File or assembly name  
System.Windows.Forms, Version=1.0.5000.0, Culture=neutral,  
PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089, or one of its dependencies, was not  
found.
MONO_PATH="../../class/lib/default:$MONO_PATH"  
/Users/mandel/Programming/mono/runtime/mono-wrapper   
../../class/lib/default/mcs.exe /codepage:65001   -d:NET_1_1  
-d:ONLY_1_1 -debug /noconfig /unsafe /r:mscorlib.dll /r:System.dll  
/r:System.Xml.dll /r:System.Drawing.dll /r:Accessibility.dll  
/r:System.Data.dll /r:Mono.Posix.dll /r:Mono.Mozilla  
@System.Windows.Forms.dll.resources -debug -nowarn:618,612,809  
-target:library -out:../../class/lib/default/System.Windows.Forms.dll   
@System.Windows.Forms.dll.sources
System.Windows.Forms/Control.cs(5629,46): warning CS0219: The variable  
`parented' is assigned but its value is never used
System.Windows.Forms.CarbonInternal/KeyboardHandler.cs(263,29): error  
CS0019: Operator `!=' cannot be applied to operands of type  
`System.Windows.Forms.MSG' and `System.Windows.Forms.Msg'
Compilation failed: 1 error(s), 1 warnings
make[8]: *** [../../class/lib/default/System.Windows.Forms.dll] Error 1
make[7]: *** [do-all] Error 2
make[6]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: *** [profile-do--default--all] Error 2
make[3]: *** [profiles-do--all] Error 2
make[2]: *** [all-local] Error 2
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 2

I have also attached my config.log (although I do not know if you can  
attach things in a mailing list...)
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From gnorton at novell.com  Wed Feb  6 09:42:52 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:42:52 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Mono-list] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
In-Reply-To: <260c534f0802060537i61cbeb30pbfe1604a73b41569@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
	<260c534f0802060537i61cbeb30pbfe1604a73b41569@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <654AF121-8083-415A-B681-E5DB2AE1C7BB@novell.com>

Anders,

On 6-Feb-08, at 8:37 AM, Anders Rune Jensen wrote:
>
> Great work. I tried installing it and the installation completes
> copying the files, but  fails when setting up the installation (I
> guess doing the symlinks). Is there a log somewhere I can consult to
> find out why it fails? My mac installations has a lot of stuff
> installed so it might be because of this, if only I could debug it :-)
>

Please try running the pkg installer from the commandline.

sudo installer -verbose -pkg Mono.Framework.bla.bla.bla.pkg -target /

-g


From kendrhyd at sympatico.ca  Wed Feb  6 10:12:15 2008
From: kendrhyd at sympatico.ca (Ken & Deb Allen)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:12:15 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] 1.2.6_6 Release
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP086698442F7E4AF8D71065B22D0@CEZ.ICE>

I like the new downloads page!

I grabbed the new release, especially because I wanted to see  
MonDevelop, but there are some problems with it.

The 1.2.6_6 release installed fine, but the MonoDevelop utility does  
not work well, at least under MacOS X.

1. Quit from the Apple menu never quits, and quit from the File menu  
usually quits (but not always).

2. On the File Open dialog, almost none of the navigation options  
work! Sometimes I can move around, but most of the time, especially if  
a project/solution is not open, pressing most buttons or double- 
clicking on the list do nothing!

3. The Add Files dialog does not respond to the mouse at all, except  
for the Aqua window close button! One has to use the keyboard!

4. I cannot figure out how to create a MonoDevelop project/solution  
from an existing set of files that had been compiled from the command  
line.

-ken

From gnorton at novell.com  Wed Feb  6 10:17:12 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:17:12 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] 1.2.6_6 Release
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP086698442F7E4AF8D71065B22D0@CEZ.ICE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP086698442F7E4AF8D71065B22D0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <A129B814-83D5-4A1C-B017-C0C6993D56B9@novell.com>

Ken,

On 6-Feb-08, at 10:12 AM, Ken & Deb Allen wrote:

> I like the new downloads page!
>

Thanks, a lot of work by the team went into this.

> I grabbed the new release, especially because I wanted to see
> MonDevelop, but there are some problems with it.
>

Have you filed bugs for these issues?  Tracking things going forward  
really needs bug reports.  That being said.


> 1. Quit from the Apple menu never quits, and quit from the File menu
> usually quits (but not always).

Please file this as two seperate bugs with as much information as you  
can on how to replicate the problem.
>
> 2. On the File Open dialog, almost none of the navigation options
> work! Sometimes I can move around, but most of the time, especially if
> a project/solution is not open, pressing most buttons or double-
> clicking on the list do nothing!
>

I have seen this before, it appears to be a bug in Gtk+ (but please  
file it anyways).  The work around (for now) is click the title bar of  
the dialog and move it slightly, then things should begin to work as  
expected.

> 3. The Add Files dialog does not respond to the mouse at all, except
> for the Aqua window close button! One has to use the keyboard!
>

Same as above.

> 4. I cannot figure out how to create a MonoDevelop project/solution
> from an existing set of files that had been compiled from the command
> line.
>

I'm not even certain MonoDevelop can do this without creating a  
project/solution and adding your files to it.  Check the MD  
documentation.


ps> please assign all the bugs directly to me

-g


From mh at elitedev.com  Wed Feb  6 10:45:42 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:45:42 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] 1.2.6_6 Release
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP086698442F7E4AF8D71065B22D0@CEZ.ICE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP086698442F7E4AF8D71065B22D0@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <C1223C9C-5537-4C2D-A383-CA2A9AFDCCAB@elitedev.com>

> I like the new downloads page!

yeah, seconded. VERY nice and much improvement over the old one!. good  
job!

> I grabbed the new release, especially because I wanted to see
> MonDevelop, but there are some problems with it.

wow - i missed that in Geoff's initial ANN. this is cool indeed -  
can't wait to finally try MD on OSX. (always was too lazy with  
bothering to get it to compile manually ;)


Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com  Wed Feb  6 13:46:07 2008
From: olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com (Ockert Labuschagne)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:46:07 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installing mono
Message-ID: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>

I'm new to both mono and Mac. I have a Mac mini running OS X 10.4.11. When I
run the MonoFramework-1.2.6 installer the installation fails. Am I missing
something that I need to do first?

 

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From sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 14:47:35 2008
From: sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com (Sandy Armstrong)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:47:35 -0800
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installing mono
In-Reply-To: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
References: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <f89c49a90802061147h69334588x9030575ed33187cb@mail.gmail.com>

On Feb 6, 2008 10:46 AM, Ockert Labuschagne
<olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com> wrote:
>
> I'm new to both mono and Mac. I have a Mac mini running OS X 10.4.11. When I
> run the MonoFramework-1.2.6 installer the installation fails. Am I missing
> something that I need to do first?

Probably X11.app.  I received that error when I tried to install without it.

Install X11.app from your original OS X install disc, then try again.
The Mono installer may see it is an "upgrade", but that will be fine.

Best,
Sandy

From gnorton at novell.com  Wed Feb  6 18:06:37 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:06:37 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installing mono
In-Reply-To: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
References: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <1202339197.30116.0.camel@limestone.sublimeintervention.com>

Ockert,

On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 12:46 -0600, Ockert Labuschagne wrote:
> I?m new to both mono and Mac. I have a Mac mini running OS X 10.4.11.
> When I run the MonoFramework-1.2.6 installer the installation fails.
> Am I missing something that I need to do first?
> 

Try running the postflight script in the .pkg manually (in sudo) to see
why its failing.  Likely you have fink installed which is clashing with
some things we have in there (we have fixed that for the next release)

-g

> 


From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Wed Feb  6 14:17:32 2008
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:17:32 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installing mono
In-Reply-To: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
References: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <47AA07CC.8080904@voidspace.org.uk>

Ockert Labuschagne wrote:
>
> I?m new to both mono and Mac. I have a Mac mini running OS X 10.4.11. 
> When I run the MonoFramework-1.2.6 installer the installation fails. 
> Am I missing something that I need to do first?
>

A great blog entry on compiling Mono for Leopard that may be of some use 
as it enumerates the steps:

http://flanders.co.nz/blog/archive/2008/02/05/compiling-mono-and-ironruby-on-osx-leopard.aspx

Michael Foord
http://www.manning.com/foord

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From olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com  Wed Feb  6 20:39:40 2008
From: olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com (Ockert Labuschagne)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:39:40 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installing mono
In-Reply-To: <f89c49a90802061147h69334588x9030575ed33187cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003401c868f0$8ef7bfa0$ace73ee0$@com>
	<f89c49a90802061147h69334588x9030575ed33187cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007d01c8692a$54e202a0$fea607e0$@com>

Thanks,
Installing X11 helped.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Armstrong [mailto:sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:48 PM
To: Ockert Labuschagne
Cc: mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
Subject: Re: [Mono-osx] Installing mono

On Feb 6, 2008 10:46 AM, Ockert Labuschagne
<olabuschagne at growthpathanalytics.com> wrote:
>
> I'm new to both mono and Mac. I have a Mac mini running OS X 10.4.11. When
I
> run the MonoFramework-1.2.6 installer the installation fails. Am I missing
> something that I need to do first?

Probably X11.app.  I received that error when I tried to install without it.

Install X11.app from your original OS X install disc, then try again.
The Mono installer may see it is an "upgrade", but that will be fine.

Best,
Sandy





From jgeerdes at mchsi.com  Fri Feb  8 11:11:26 2008
From: jgeerdes at mchsi.com (Jeremy R. Geerdes)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:11:26 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] (no subject)
Message-ID: <FA19D63D-FC4A-428A-8B06-2C09616D2225@mchsi.com>

Greetings. I'm wondering if anyone can provide insight into installing  
mono, xsp, and mod_mono on a Santa Rosa MacBook running Leopard  
(detailed system specs below).  I've run the packaged installer, and  
everything seems to go okay, but I have since discovered that even  
simple tests of the framework fail.  I can start xsp and mod-mono- 
server, and they report that they are listening on appropriate  
addresses and ports, but they fail to respond when queried.  And  
mod_mono won't even install at all.  The make install simply places a  
symlink (mod_mono.so) to a non-existent file (mod_mono.0.0.0.so) in  
the Apache modules folder

I read in other forums that modules such as mod_jk have issues with  
Leopard and/or the Santa Rosa architecture because they still try to  
install for i386 when Santa Rosa requires x86-64.  So after several  
frustrating days, I went through the makefile for mod_mono and tried  
to change i386 references to x86-64, but I don't really have a lot of  
experience doing that, and it did nothing for me.

Detailed system specifications:
Hardware: MacBook,3,1
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2GHz (Santa Rosa)
RAM: 2GB
OS: Mac OS X 10.5.1
X11:  2.1.0 - X.org X11R7.2
mono: 1.2.5.2
xsp: 1.1.16.1 (I've tried 1.2.6, too)
mod_mono:1.2.6

If you need more information, just let me know!  And thanks in advance  
for any and all assistance!

Rev. Jeremy R. Geerdes, Pastor
Debra Heights Wesleyan Church
4025 Lower Beaver Rd.
Des Moines, IA 50310

p/f: (515) 279-5212
h: (515) 277-7491
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From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb  8 11:15:52 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 11:15:52 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <FA19D63D-FC4A-428A-8B06-2C09616D2225@mchsi.com>
References: <FA19D63D-FC4A-428A-8B06-2C09616D2225@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <8D54D45D-4614-4E0F-A142-A2B6C447E1D1@novell.com>

Jeremy,

On 8-Feb-08, at 11:11 AM, Jeremy R. Geerdes wrote:

> Greetings. I'm wondering if anyone can provide insight into  
> installing mono, xsp, and mod_mono on a Santa Rosa MacBook running  
> Leopard (detailed system specs below).  I've run the packaged  
> installer, and everything seems to go okay, but I have since  
> discovered that even simple tests of the framework fail.  I can  
> start xsp and mod-mono-server, and they report that they are  
> listening on appropriate addresses and ports, but they fail to  
> respond when queried.  And mod_mono won't even install at all.  The  
> make install simply places a symlink (mod_mono.so) to a non-existent  
> file (mod_mono.0.0.0.so) in the Apache modules folder
>
> I read in other forums that modules such as mod_jk have issues with  
> Leopard and/or the Santa Rosa architecture because they still try to  
> install for i386 when Santa Rosa requires x86-64.  So after several  
> frustrating days, I went through the makefile for mod_mono and tried  
> to change i386 references to x86-64, but I don't really have a lot  
> of experience doing that, and it did nothing for me.

Try compiing with CFLAGS="-m64" to get around the 32-bit/64-bit  
problem.  The "invalid install" is a problem with apxs2 on Leopard.  I  
think Dru was working on a fix for this (I've cc'd him)

-g


From mh at elitedev.com  Fri Feb  8 15:11:29 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 21:11:29 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] MWF DataGridView working for anyone?
Message-ID: <531BE9AA-1480-41C4-8E4E-F9D0548E6F0A@elitedev.com>

Hi

Has anyone successfully used the DataGridView in Mono 1.2.6_6/Leopard?  
i don't get any errors, but the grid view always shows empty (i see  
the columns, and an empty row - as if no data was loaded). exact  
same .exe on .NET/WinXP shows the data just fine.

is this a known limitation/missing functionality in current MWF, or am  
i missing something?


Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From awills61 at yahoo.co.uk  Sun Feb 10 10:45:07 2008
From: awills61 at yahoo.co.uk (Andrew Wills)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 15:45:07 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx]  Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
Message-ID: <17BAE75E-3866-418A-9A91-9AB384953850@yahoo.co.uk>

When I create a new project and choose c# the gt#2.0 Project does not  
appear in the list.

Is this because stetic is not included in 1.2.6_6? or is it some other  
reason?


From bob.spamnot at gmail.com  Mon Feb 11 00:00:18 2008
From: bob.spamnot at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:00:18 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.framework 1.2.6_6 gtk-sharp issues
Message-ID: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>

Note that I posted this on the Imendio GTK+ Mac OS X forum as well.

I have tried the new GTK Mac backend contained in the Mono framework
MonoFramework-1.2.6_6.macos10.novell.universal.dmg which was recently
released.  I used in on an application I wrote and am very impressed that
most things work.  Nice job getting this up to speed.  This is close to
being usable.  I am on a PowerBook G4 running Mac OS 10.4.10.

I do have a few issues.  Although I am using mono and gtk-sharp, I suspect
that the problems I am having are in the GTK backend.  The 1st of these is
most important to me, the others are either annoyances or can be worked
around.  But #1 completely changes the behavior of my app.

1. KeyPressEvents seem to be handled differently using the X11 backend and
the Mac backend.  Using X11 ALL keypress events are queued and handled by
the main loop when it gets around to them.  So if I have a big computation
going and hit two key presses, the main loop will see them when the big
computation stops and the main loop runs.  But with the Mac backend key
presses are not be seen by the main loop if they are pressed while a big
computation is running.  They just disappear.  This greatly changes the
behavior of my application (making it very hard to use reliable).

2. I use a Gtk.DrawingArea. It renders the window using pixmaps (in the
background) and then the pixmap is drawn to the Gdk.Window (of the drawing
area) using Gdk.Window.DrawDrawable.  The problem is that using the Mac GTK
backend this does not cause the actual window to get re-drawn (except when
the window is first created).  If I put in an explicit call to
Gdk.Window.InvalidateRect after the call DrawDrawable then it gets re-drawn
but this should not be necessary (and is not necessary using the X11
backend).

3. The keypress events for the function keys do not get recognized.  When I
print them using Console.WriteLine ("KPress: {0}", evnt.Key); they show as
"KPress: 16777232" (instead of KPress: F2, etc).  I am using a PowerBook G4
and have to push the "fn" key while pressing the function key so this could
be playing a role (but it works fine in X11 mode).

4. I use fullscreen mode (Gtk.Window.Fullsceeen) and then Hide the
fullscreen window when I want to go back to my normal window.  This works
well except that the Mac Menu Bar is not re-drawn after the Hide call.  I
should mention that I am impressed that the Fullscreen really uses the
entire screen (including covering up the dock and mac menu bar).  This is
the way it should be and I was afraid that it would not work this was (this
is a step up from the X11 backend on Mac).

5. I use a Gtk.TreeView and the vertical scrollbar sliders are not drawn
(the horizontal ones are drawn).  The vertical scrollbar seems to work fine
but I have to guess where the slider is. I noticed that the gtk-demo program
has this problem also.

6. The emulated mouse buttons do not work.  For example, control click is
suppose to be like a right mouse button (button 2) but instead it shows as a
control and then a click.

7. I get a bunch of "CGBitmapContextGetBitsPerPixel: invalid context"
getting output.  Not sure if this matters.  I also noticed that the gtk-demo
program included in the distribution spits these out as well.
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From gnorton at novell.com  Mon Feb 11 00:05:52 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:05:52 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.framework 1.2.6_6 gtk-sharp issues
In-Reply-To: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D4026805-E56C-49F2-9E2E-B98FA2DD613B@novell.com>

Bob,


First and foremost, thanks for the feedback.

On 11-Feb-08, at 12:00 AM, Bob wrote:

> Note that I posted this on the Imendio GTK+ Mac OS X forum as well.
>
> I have tried the new GTK Mac backend contained in the Mono framework  
> MonoFramework-1.2.6_6.macos10.novell.universal.dmg which was  
> recently released.  I used in on an application I wrote and am very  
> impressed that most things work.  Nice job getting this up to  
> speed.  This is close to being usable.  I am on a PowerBook G4  
> running Mac OS 10.4.10.
>
> I do have a few issues.  Although I am using mono and gtk-sharp, I  
> suspect that the problems I am having are in the GTK backend.  The  
> 1st of these is most important to me, the others are either  
> annoyances or can be worked around.  But #1 completely changes the  
> behavior of my app.
>
> 1. KeyPressEvents seem to be handled differently using the X11  
> backend and the Mac backend.  Using X11 ALL keypress events are  
> queued and handled by the main loop when it gets around to them.  So  
> if I have a big computation going and hit two key presses, the main  
> loop will see them when the big computation stops and the main loop  
> runs.  But with the Mac backend key presses are not be seen by the  
> main loop if they are pressed while a big computation is running.   
> They just disappear.  This greatly changes the behavior of my  
> application (making it very hard to use reliable).
>
> 2. I use a Gtk.DrawingArea. It renders the window using pixmaps (in  
> the background) and then the pixmap is drawn to the Gdk.Window (of  
> the drawing area) using Gdk.Window.DrawDrawable.  The problem is  
> that using the Mac GTK backend this does not cause the actual window  
> to get re-drawn (except when the window is first created).  If I put  
> in an explicit call to Gdk.Window.InvalidateRect after the call  
> DrawDrawable then it gets re-drawn but this should not be necessary  
> (and is not necessary using the X11 backend).
>
> 3. The keypress events for the function keys do not get recognized.   
> When I print them using Console.WriteLine ("KPress: {0}", evnt.Key);  
> they show as "KPress: 16777232" (instead of KPress: F2, etc).  I am  
> using a PowerBook G4 and have to push the "fn" key while pressing  
> the function key so this could be playing a role (but it works fine  
> in X11 mode).
>
> 4. I use fullscreen mode (Gtk.Window.Fullsceeen) and then Hide the  
> fullscreen window when I want to go back to my normal window.  This  
> works well except that the Mac Menu Bar is not re-drawn after the  
> Hide call.  I should mention that I am impressed that the Fullscreen  
> really uses the entire screen (including covering up the dock and  
> mac menu bar).  This is the way it should be and I was afraid that  
> it would not work this was (this is a step up from the X11 backend  
> on Mac).
>
> 5. I use a Gtk.TreeView and the vertical scrollbar sliders are not  
> drawn (the horizontal ones are drawn).  The vertical scrollbar seems  
> to work fine but I have to guess where the slider is. I noticed that  
> the gtk-demo program has this problem also.
>
> 6. The emulated mouse buttons do not work.  For example, control  
> click is suppose to be like a right mouse button (button 2) but  
> instead it shows as a control and then a click.
>
> 7. I get a bunch of "CGBitmapContextGetBitsPerPixel: invalid  
> context" getting output.  Not sure if this matters.  I also noticed  
> that the gtk-demo program included in the distribution spits these  
> out as well.

Could you please file issues for each of these independently as bugs  
and assign them to me (gnorton at novell.com).  The bulk of them are  
likely gtk+ bugs, but we're trying to triage for imendio and make  
native testcases for them as much as we can (and contribute back) and  
this would be very helpful for us.

Thanks!

-g


From David_Hudson at capgroup.com  Mon Feb 11 11:09:01 2008
From: David_Hudson at capgroup.com (David_Hudson at capgroup.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:09:01 -0800
Subject: [Mono-osx] Problems installing Mono on OSX 10.4
Message-ID: <OF42EA3F75.1CFB5CC8-ON882573EC.0057ECC6-882573EC.0058B5AD@capgroup.com>


Hi,

I am trying to install Mono 1.2.6_6 on my iBook g3 700Mhz running 10.4.11.
I have X11 installed on it. When I try to install Mono, the installation
fails at the very end. I ran the uninstaller script and reinstalled with
the same results.

When I manually run the postflight script (under sudo) I get this:

-----------------
+ cd /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/Current/etc
+ gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib
  Referenced from: /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
  Reason: Incompatible library version: gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders requires
version 1501.0.0 or
later, but libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib provides version 801.0.0
/Volumes/MonoFramework-1.2.6/MonoFramework-1.2.6
_6.macos10.novell.universal.pkg/Contents/Resources/postflight:
line 32:  1256 Trace/BPT trap          gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders >gtk-2.0
/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
+ mkdir -p pango
+ pango-querymodules
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib
  Referenced from: /usr/bin/pango-querymodules
  Reason: Incompatible library version: pango-querymodules requires version
1901.0.0 or later, but
libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib provides version 1004.0.0
/Volumes/MonoFramework-1.2.6/MonoFramework-1.2.6
_6.macos10.novell.universal.pkg/Contents/Resources/postflight:
line 32:  1259 Trace/BPT trap          pango-querymodules
>pango/pango.modules
------------------

Then when I try to run 'mono' from the command line I get this instead of
the command line help.

---------------------------
Host Name:      David-Hudsons-iBook
Date/Time:      2008-02-08 23:55:49.417 -0800
OS Version:     10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
Report Version: 4

Path:    /usr/bin/mono
Parent:  bash [709]

Version: ??? (???)

PID:    1661
Thread: Unknown

Link (dyld) error:

Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib
  Referenced from:
/Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6
/bin/../lib/libgthread-2.0.0.1400.1.dylib
  Reason: Incompatible library version: libgthread-2.0.0.1400.1.dylib
requires version 1401.0.0 or
later, but libglib-2.0.0.dylib provides version 1001.0.0
---------------------

This same error occurs with 1.2.6_5. I then reinstall 1.2.5.1 and that
installs and runs fine.

I did not see any bug reports like this in bugzilla. Any ideas?

Thanks
Dave


From anders at iola.dk  Wed Feb  6 08:37:06 2008
From: anders at iola.dk (Anders Rune Jensen)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 14:37:06 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Mono-list] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
In-Reply-To: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
References: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
Message-ID: <260c534f0802060537i61cbeb30pbfe1604a73b41569@mail.gmail.com>

On Feb 5, 2008 6:17 PM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:
> We are proud to announce that we have released Mono v1.2.6_6 for the Mac to
> our download page. This interim release for the Macintosh includes updated
> Winforms driver, and is the first release to include Gtk# and MonoDevelop.
> Support for these features is stabilizing; however, they should still be
> considered experimental. Please help us improve this story as we approach
> our 1.9 release by filing bug reports to bugzilla.novell.com There are no
> other changes from the standard 1.2.6_5 release outside this scope. Please
> read the included README for more information.

Hi Geoff

Great work. I tried installing it and the installation completes
copying the files, but  fails when setting up the installation (I
guess doing the symlinks). Is there a log somewhere I can consult to
find out why it fails? My mac installations has a lot of stuff
installed so it might be because of this, if only I could debug it :-)

Thanks

-- 
Anders Rune Jensen
http://people.iola.dk/arj/

From lscoughlin at mac.com  Tue Feb 12 10:33:23 2008
From: lscoughlin at mac.com (Liam Coughlin)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:33:23 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Mono-list] Announcing: Mono.framework 1.2.6_6
In-Reply-To: <260c534f0802060537i61cbeb30pbfe1604a73b41569@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C01FF99F-8C66-4638-9E00-7B4ADD85364C@novell.com>
	<260c534f0802060537i61cbeb30pbfe1604a73b41569@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61B82D41-6754-4EFE-B3EA-81AF3E6BF3B6@mac.com>

<beats a dead horse>
A debugger! A Debugger!  My Kingdom for a debugger!
</beats a dead horse>

On Feb 6, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Anders Rune Jensen wrote:

> On Feb 5, 2008 6:17 PM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:
>> We are proud to announce that we have released Mono v1.2.6_6 for  
>> the Mac to
>> our download page. This interim release for the Macintosh includes  
>> updated
>> Winforms driver, and is the first release to include Gtk# and  
>> MonoDevelop.
>> Support for these features is stabilizing; however, they should  
>> still be
>> considered experimental. Please help us improve this story as we  
>> approach
>> our 1.9 release by filing bug reports to bugzilla.novell.com There  
>> are no
>> other changes from the standard 1.2.6_5 release outside this  
>> scope. Please
>> read the included README for more information.
>
> Hi Geoff
>
> Great work. I tried installing it and the installation completes
> copying the files, but  fails when setting up the installation (I
> guess doing the symlinks). Is there a log somewhere I can consult to
> find out why it fails? My mac installations has a lot of stuff
> installed so it might be because of this, if only I could debug it :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> -- 
> Anders Rune Jensen
> http://people.iola.dk/arj/
> _______________________________________________
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From bob.spamnot at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 10:18:36 2008
From: bob.spamnot at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:18:36 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.framework 1.2.6_6 gtk-sharp issues
In-Reply-To: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <760710620802140718j7f2bfbb0s517d10e77b388feb@mail.gmail.com>

Here are few questions I have about the Mono framework including the GTK#
backend:

1. Does this framework include monodoc?  If so where?  I would think it
should be there but cannot find it.  It would be nice if it was included and
it had GTK# documentation consistent with the included version of GTK#.

2. It would be good if the Mono Framework installer gave the option to NOT
put the links in /usr/bin and /usr/share/man.  The 1st thing I do is remove
these and it is dangerous to be removing things from /usr/bin.  I do not
want these links because I have a mono/GTK# stack in /opt/local (from
MacPorts) and want to be able to switch between that one and the one in
/Library/Frameworks them by adjusting PATH and MANPATH.

3. Did you wrap the functions for changing the Mac Menu described here:

http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/integration

If so what are the GTK# functions called and where are they?

Thanks again,
Bob
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From gnorton at novell.com  Thu Feb 14 10:25:33 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.framework 1.2.6_6 gtk-sharp issues
In-Reply-To: <760710620802140718j7f2bfbb0s517d10e77b388feb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
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On 14-Feb-08, at 10:18 AM, Bob wrote:

> Here are few questions I have about the Mono framework including the  
> GTK# backend:
>
> 1. Does this framework include monodoc?  If so where?  I would think  
> it should be there but cannot find it.  It would be nice if it was  
> included and it had GTK# documentation consistent with the included  
> version of GTK#.
>

It includes monodoc.dll but not the browser as that requires a gtkhtml  
widget we dont support.

> 2. It would be good if the Mono Framework installer gave the option  
> to NOT put the links in /usr/bin and /usr/share/man.  The 1st thing  
> I do is remove these and it is dangerous to be removing things from / 
> usr/bin.  I do not want these links because I have a mono/GTK# stack  
> in /opt/local (from MacPorts) and want to be able to switch between  
> that one and the one in /Library/Frameworks them by adjusting PATH  
> and MANPATH.

This likely wont be happening soon.  Whats wrong with export PATH=/opt/ 
local/bin:$PATH ?

>
> 3. Did you wrap the functions for changing the Mac Menu described  
> here:
>
> http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/integration

> If so what are the GTK# functions called and where are they?
>

Not yet

-g

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From bob.spamnot at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 10:44:44 2008
From: bob.spamnot at gmail.com (Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:44:44 -0700
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.framework 1.2.6_6 gtk-sharp issues
In-Reply-To: <49BE3106-4371-4DB0-ADF6-4B8917E785E5@novell.com>
References: <760710620802102100l770da480xbe1bed08d620ebb8@mail.gmail.com>
	<760710620802140718j7f2bfbb0s517d10e77b388feb@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:

>
> On 14-Feb-08, at 10:18 AM, Bob wrote:
>
> Here are few questions I have about the Mono framework including the GTK#
> backend:
>
> 1. Does this framework include monodoc?  If so where?  I would think it
> should be there but cannot find it.  It would be nice if it was included and
> it had GTK# documentation consistent with the included version of GTK#.
>
>
> It includes monodoc.dll but not the browser as that requires a gtkhtml
> widget we dont support.
>

How would I go about installing monodoc?  Is there any plans to getting it
in a state you do support (or even supplying a stand alone version of the
html files one browses on the website, to use for offline viewing)?


>
> 2. It would be good if the Mono Framework installer gave the option to NOT
> put the links in /usr/bin and /usr/share/man.  The 1st thing I do is remove
> these and it is dangerous to be removing things from /usr/bin.  I do not
> want these links because I have a mono/GTK# stack in /opt/local (from
> MacPorts) and want to be able to switch between that one and the one in
> /Library/Frameworks them by adjusting PATH and MANPATH.
>
>
> This likely wont be happening soon.  Whats wrong with export
> PATH=/opt/local/bin:$PATH ?
>

Well, I use MacPorts (/opt/local/bin) for much more that just Mono/GTK# so
it is always toward the head of my path.  So to use the MonoFramework I must
have /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Commands before /opt/local/bin on my
path.  Thus, the links in /usr/bin are never used.  I guess they do no harm,
but it seems cleaner without them.  It is not a big deal.


>
>
> 3. Did you wrap the functions for changing the Mac Menu described here:
>
> http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/integration
>
>
> If so what are the GTK# functions called and where are they?
>
>
> Not yet
>

OK, I assume you will think about as they mature.

Bob
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From jgeerdes at mchsi.com  Fri Feb 15 16:03:21 2008
From: jgeerdes at mchsi.com (Jeremy R. Geerdes)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:03:21 -0600
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono-VB on Leopard
Message-ID: <254A226B-F823-4506-A161-E8F6EB2B275F@mchsi.com>

Posted this to mono-vb, but haven't heard anything yet.  So I thought  
I would try here, too.

Greetings.  Trying to get mono-vb up and running on my Santa Rosa  
Macbook running Leopard with mono 1.2.6_6, xsp 1.2.6, and mod_mono.   
Install seems to go fine, but mono still reports that it doesn't  
support VBNet.  I believe that the problem lies in the prefix.   
Namely, I haven't figured out what prefix to use with the configure.   
Mono is installed in /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework .  I tried -- 
prefix=/Library/Frameworks and --prefix=/Library/Frameworks/ 
Mono.framework without success.  Wondering if anyone has any insight  
into what the correct prefix should be.

Rev. Jeremy R. Geerdes, Pastor
Debra Heights Wesleyan Church
4025 Lower Beaver Rd.
Des Moines, IA 50310

p/f: (515) 279-5212
h: (515) 277-7491
jgeerdes at mchsi.com





From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb 15 16:10:06 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:10:06 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono-VB on Leopard
In-Reply-To: <254A226B-F823-4506-A161-E8F6EB2B275F@mchsi.com>
References: <254A226B-F823-4506-A161-E8F6EB2B275F@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <B0099454-E90B-463B-8964-9143CFB76F3A@novell.com>

On 15-Feb-08, at 4:03 PM, Jeremy R. Geerdes wrote:

> Posted this to mono-vb, but haven't heard anything yet.  So I thought
> I would try here, too.
>
> Greetings.  Trying to get mono-vb up and running on my Santa Rosa
> Macbook running Leopard with mono 1.2.6_6, xsp 1.2.6, and mod_mono.
> Install seems to go fine, but mono still reports that it doesn't
> support VBNet.  I believe that the problem lies in the prefix.
> Namely, I haven't figured out what prefix to use with the configure.
> Mono is installed in /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework .  I tried --
> prefix=/Library/Frameworks and --prefix=/Library/Frameworks/
> Mono.framework without success.  Wondering if anyone has any insight
> into what the correct prefix should be.
>

/Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/ 
WHATEVER_VERSION_YOU_WANT_TO_INSTALL_TO

You can also use

/Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/Current if you want to hit  
the current version

We do ship vbnc and the runtime in the Mono.framework tho so I'm not  
sure why you're trying to compile it

Also what do you mean by "reports it doesn't support VBNet".

-g

From mh at elitedev.com  Fri Feb 15 16:27:12 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:27:12 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] Two new articles on Cocoa# with Chrome
Message-ID: <D28F62B0-1769-49B5-9745-1526EC06B97E@elitedev.com>

These have been a long time coming, but over the past weekend i  
finally got around two finishing two articles i have been working on  
about using Chrome and our Data Abstract library to build Cocoa# apps.

The first article, CH07, gives a general overview of the IDE and  
compile-time support Chrome 'Joyride' brings for developing Mono apps  
on the Mac. DA35 takes this a step further by adding Data Abstract to  
the mix and creating a front-end app for our public bug database DA  
Server.

Check my blog at http://www.marchoffman.de/206 for more details & the  
actual articles.

Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From john.tear at drsl.co.uk  Tue Feb 12 06:13:41 2008
From: john.tear at drsl.co.uk (John Tear)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:13:41 -0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installation Error
Message-ID: <AEC46BD4A6D4B544B8C26776EC3DD35CF49BE9@exchange.drsl.co.uk>

Hi

I tried to upgrade my mono installation to version 1.2.6_6 on Mac OSX 10.4.11.

When it gets to the end of the installation I get the following error: 'Please try installing again'.

I have tried installing it a few times with the same error. Is there a procedure for removing the previous installation?

Any ideas?

Regards

John Tear


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From gnorton at novell.com  Tue Feb 19 22:52:06 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:52:06 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installation Error
In-Reply-To: <AEC46BD4A6D4B544B8C26776EC3DD35CF49BE9@exchange.drsl.co.uk>
References: <AEC46BD4A6D4B544B8C26776EC3DD35CF49BE9@exchange.drsl.co.uk>
Message-ID: <EDA9312B-6441-44BB-A9CF-53D9E587D75F@novell.com>

On 12-Feb-08, at 6:13 AM, John Tear wrote:

> Hi
>
> I tried to upgrade my mono installation to version 1.2.6_6 on Mac  
> OSX 10.4.11.
>
> When it gets to the end of the installation I get the following  
> error: 'Please try installing again'.
>
> I have tried installing it a few times with the same error. Is there  
> a procedure for removing the previous installation?
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

We unfortunately shipped 1.2.6_6 with a hard requirement on X11 to  
install successfully.  You should install X11, or 1.2.6_5, or 1.9p2 to  
work around this (I suggest X11, if you want Gtk# and other such  
goodness to work)

Sorry for the issues.

-g

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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 05:26:02 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:26:02 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp] Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>

Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?

I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using Cocoa;".

I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)

Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.

Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
the issue?

What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?

From mh at elitedev.com  Wed Feb 20 05:36:36 2008
From: mh at elitedev.com (marc hoffman)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:36:36 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp]   Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>

> Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?
>
> I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using  
> Cocoa;".
>
> I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
> the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)
>
> Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
> than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.
>
> Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
> the issue?
>
> What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?

mainly that Cocoa is one of many frameworks that can be made  
accessible thru the ObjC binding. this has been discussed at length on  
the list a couple of weeks back, fwiw.


Yours,

marc hoffman

RemObjects Software
The Infrastructure Company
http://www.remobjects.com





From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 05:51:37 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:51:37 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] [Cocoa-sharp]  Cocoa Sharp namespace
In-Reply-To: <0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>
References: <20080204081603.cdybhdt37ksgwo4w@www.themacaque.com>
	<49f8fc020802040730t5119a526h9ee940e6bd6d72c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7a5d66520802040732x41004918q1f0660303d617652@mail.gmail.com>
	<49f8fc020802200226r50cf805ck3cf14032e1d00275@mail.gmail.com>
	<0C080FDB-5A7F-4A95-B224-3DCF879E471D@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802200251x7205ff3cw1c4be86518c32088@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, I participated in that discussion. But then I heard about the
reverse binding and started thinking that it will be confusing.

Should be interesting...

On Feb 20, 2008 10:36 AM, marc hoffman <mh at elitedev.com> wrote:
>
> > Can somebody clear up the confusion maybe?
> >
> > I understand the namespace for Cocoa-Sharp is "Cocoa", hence "using
> > Cocoa;".
> >
> > I then heard of a namespace "objc" which I understood was the name for
> > the new implementation of Cocoa-Sharp? (Why?)
> >
> > Now I hear, on the .NET Rocks! podcast (http://www.dotnetrocks.com/)
> > than objc-sharp are bindings for Objective C to .NET.
> >
> > Wouldn't any .NET namespace with a name based on "objc" merely confuse
> > the issue?
> >
> > What's wrong with the "Cocoa" name?
>
> mainly that Cocoa is one of many frameworks that can be made
> accessible thru the ObjC binding. this has been discussed at length on
> the list a couple of weeks back, fwiw.
>
>
> Yours,
>
> marc hoffman
>
> RemObjects Software
> The Infrastructure Company
> http://www.remobjects.com
>
>
>
>
>

From David_Hudson at capgroup.com  Wed Feb 20 12:37:40 2008
From: David_Hudson at capgroup.com (David_Hudson at capgroup.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:37:40 -0800
Subject: [Mono-osx] Problems installing Mono on OSX 10.4
Message-ID: <OF2BEE127C.C0E65549-ON882573F5.00604467-882573F5.0060D4B9@capgroup.com>


Well, I finally got Monodevelop working (Moma still crashes). Fortunately,
I think my situation was unusual. I was one of the brave souls who used to
use the X11 version of MonoDevelop  (from http://www.macux.org/). It
installed the Mono and GTK related files in /usr/lib and such. Once I
deleted all of that Monodevelop came up fine.

Dave

David Hudson/INV/CG/CAPITAL wrote on 02/11/2008 08:09:01 AM:

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to install Mono 1.2.6_6 on my iBook g3 700Mhz running
> 10.4.11. I have X11 installed on it. When I try to install Mono, the
> installation fails at the very end. I ran the uninstaller script and
> reinstalled with the same results.
>
> When I manually run the postflight script (under sudo) I get this:
>
> -----------------
> + cd /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/Current/etc
> + gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
> dyld: Library not loaded:
@executable_path/../lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib
>   Referenced from: /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
>   Reason: Incompatible library version: gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
> requires version 1501.0.0 or
> later, but libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.0.dylib provides version 801.0.0
> /Volumes/MonoFramework-1.2.6/MonoFramework-1.2.6_6.macos10.novell.
> universal.pkg/Contents/Resources/postflight:
> line 32:  1256 Trace/BPT trap          gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders
> >gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders
> + mkdir -p pango
> + pango-querymodules
> dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib
>   Referenced from: /usr/bin/pango-querymodules
>   Reason: Incompatible library version: pango-querymodules requires
> version 1901.0.0 or later, but
> libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib provides version 1004.0.0
> /Volumes/MonoFramework-1.2.6/MonoFramework-1.2.6_6.macos10.novell.
> universal.pkg/Contents/Resources/postflight:
> line 32:  1259 Trace/BPT trap          pango-querymodules
>pango/pango.modules
> ------------------
>
> Then when I try to run 'mono' from the command line I get this
> instead of the command line help.
>
> ---------------------------
> Host Name:      David-Hudsons-iBook
> Date/Time:      2008-02-08 23:55:49.417 -0800
> OS Version:     10.4.11 (Build 8S165)
> Report Version: 4
>
> Path:    /usr/bin/mono
> Parent:  bash [709]
>
> Version: ??? (???)
>
> PID:    1661
> Thread: Unknown
>
> Link (dyld) error:
>
> Library not loaded: @executable_path/../lib/libglib-2.0.0.dylib
>   Referenced from:
> /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6/bin/..
> /lib/libgthread-2.0.0.1400.1.dylib
>   Reason: Incompatible library version: libgthread-2.0.0.1400.1.
> dylib requires version 1401.0.0 or
> later, but libglib-2.0.0.dylib provides version 1001.0.0
> ---------------------
>
> This same error occurs with 1.2.6_5. I then reinstall 1.2.5.1 and
> that installs and runs fine.
>
> I did not see any bug reports like this in bugzilla. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
> Dave


From bennyhakim at gmail.com  Wed Feb 20 23:37:57 2008
From: bennyhakim at gmail.com (Ben Hakim)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:37:57 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.Framework 1.2.6 - System.DllNotFoundException
Message-ID: <9b2ef3510802202037va6c4b03r31d8b099aa830acc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone, I'm new to the list (but not to Mono) and wanted to say hello
:)
I'm using the System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream to handle some streams.
 This apparently depends on Mono.Posix.Dll which internally calls a
"DllImport" on "MonoPosixHelper."  The executable that I'm using has been
bundled with Mono Linker / mkbundle2.exe with the --deps option.  Everything
is working great, EXCEPT for functions requiring MonoPosixHelper.  The
following exception is raised:

System.DllNotFoundException:
/Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib
  at (wrapper managed-to-native)
System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream:create_z_stream (
System.IO.Compression.CompressionMode,bool)
  at System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream..ctor
(System.IO.StreamcompressedStream, CompressionMode mode, Boolean
leaveOpen, Boolean gzip)
[0x00000]
  at System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream..ctor
(System.IO.StreamcompressedStream, CompressionMode mode, Boolean
leaveOpen) [0x00000]
  at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)
System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream:.ctor (System.IO.Stream,
System.IO.Compression.CompressionMode,bool)


The file definitely exists
at /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib

This location has been referenced through a DllMap entry in the following
.config file:

<configuration>
        <dllmap dll="MonoPosixHelper"
target="/Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib"
/>
</configuration>

Has anyone experienced an issue like this before?
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From dave at fallingcanbedeadly.com  Thu Feb 21 09:46:03 2008
From: dave at fallingcanbedeadly.com (David Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:46:03 -0800
Subject: [Mono-osx] Announcing NSDuctTape
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1127.1203568685.1961.mono-osx@lists.ximian.com>
References: <mailman.1127.1203568685.1961.mono-osx@lists.ximian.com>
Message-ID: <005701c87498$7e2e6580$7a8b3080$@com>

This e-mail is to announce the first alpha release of NSDuctTape.

 

NSDuctTape is a new library that serves as a bridge between Apple's
Objective C runtime and the CLR. It was designed from scratch to make it as
easy as possible to create Models and Controllers to interact with Views
created with Interface Builder.

 

The library is far from complete, but enough has been done that it is usable
for certain kinds of simple applications. You can read more here:
http://fallingcanbedeadly.com/blog/archive/2008/02/18/about-nsducttape.aspx,
or you can download source and binaries here:
http://code.google.com/p/nsducttape/downloads/list.

 

I welcome feedback (and patches!), and I hope that others find it useful.

 

NSDuctTape is released under the MIT license.

 

--Dave

 

P.S.-I understand that there are already other bridges in existence, such as
Cocoa# and Dumbarton. I considered using these, but my primary goal is to be
able to reuse models made for other systems (particularly WPF) with a
minimum of extra, Cocoa-specific code. Currently, implementation of a single
interface from my library is the only thing that is required for Cocoa's
binding system to work with .NET types, and a very similar interface was
defined in Microsoft's .NET 3.5, so I plan to switch to having that as a
requirement as soon as it is included in a relese of Mono (it's possible
that it's already there; my current install of Mono is a bit out of date.).

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From akuhn at gmx.ch  Fri Feb 22 12:37:38 2008
From: akuhn at gmx.ch (Adrian Kuhn)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:37:38 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installation aborts with "please try installing again"
Message-ID: <BBC9FFEC-37AA-454E-A82C-364B0A2B121D@gmx.ch>

Dear List,

I am new to Mono, and fail to install it. Installation aborts with  
"There were errors installing the software\\please try installing  
again" when it tries to run the installer skript (ie just after the  
installer's progressbar is 100% done with writing files).

What next? ^^ How can I fix this? ^^

I am running OSX 10.4.11 on a MacBook Pro.

I am using MonoFramework-1.2.6_6.macos10.novell.universal.dmg

cheers,
Adrian AA Kuhn


-- 
Adrian Kuhn, PhD cand
Software Composition Group
University of Bern, Switzerland
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~akuhn





From sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com  Fri Feb 22 14:38:19 2008
From: sanfordarmstrong at gmail.com (Sandy Armstrong)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:19 -0800
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installation aborts with "please try installing
	again"
In-Reply-To: <08659C2E-8956-4A44-8912-BE22D1D1A50D@gmx.ch>
References: <BBC9FFEC-37AA-454E-A82C-364B0A2B121D@gmx.ch>
	<f89c49a90802220956q5acce53ct62aa6a3e4be56fa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<08659C2E-8956-4A44-8912-BE22D1D1A50D@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <f89c49a90802221138p46e6963bve1b2f4378eca2d0a@mail.gmail.com>

Glad to help!

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Adrian Kuhn <akuhn at gmx.ch> wrote:
> Works fine now, thanks!
>
>  AA
>
>
>
>  On 22 Feb 2008, at 18:56 , Sandy Armstrong wrote:
>
>  > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Adrian Kuhn <akuhn at gmx.ch> wrote:
>  >> Dear List,
>  >>
>  >>  I am new to Mono, and fail to install it. Installation aborts with
>  >>  "There were errors installing the software\\please try installing
>  >>  again" when it tries to run the installer skript (ie just after the
>  >>  installer's progressbar is 100% done with writing files).
>  >>
>  >>  What next? ^^ How can I fix this? ^^
>  >
>  > Do you have X11 installed?  It is required.
>  >
>  > Sandy
>
>

From akuhn at gmx.ch  Sat Feb 23 02:09:00 2008
From: akuhn at gmx.ch (Adrian Kuhn)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:09:00 +0100
Subject: [Mono-osx] Installation aborts with "please try installing
	again"
In-Reply-To: <f89c49a90802221138p46e6963bve1b2f4378eca2d0a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BBC9FFEC-37AA-454E-A82C-364B0A2B121D@gmx.ch>
	<f89c49a90802220956q5acce53ct62aa6a3e4be56fa7@mail.gmail.com>
	<08659C2E-8956-4A44-8912-BE22D1D1A50D@gmx.ch>
	<f89c49a90802221138p46e6963bve1b2f4378eca2d0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC99EDEB-9638-497A-A51B-582EC07A142B@gmx.ch>

Another Q, maybe you can help me there also

What is the best place to get help regarding the Mono compiler,  
compiler extensions, data flow analysis and transformation?
I am doing research in program analysis.

cheers,
AA


On 22 Feb 2008, at 20:38 , Sandy Armstrong wrote:

> Glad to help!
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Adrian Kuhn <akuhn at gmx.ch> wrote:
>> Works fine now, thanks!
>>
>>  AA
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 22 Feb 2008, at 18:56 , Sandy Armstrong wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Adrian Kuhn <akuhn at gmx.ch> wrote:
>>>> Dear List,
>>>>
>>>>  I am new to Mono, and fail to install it. Installation aborts with
>>>>  "There were errors installing the software\\please try installing
>>>>  again" when it tries to run the installer skript (ie just after  
>>>> the
>>>>  installer's progressbar is 100% done with writing files).
>>>>
>>>>  What next? ^^ How can I fix this? ^^
>>>
>>> Do you have X11 installed?  It is required.
>>>
>>> Sandy
>>
>>
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> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
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From hostel_tp at nerdshack.com  Wed Feb 20 06:39:02 2008
From: hostel_tp at nerdshack.com (rajeshvartak)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:39:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mono-osx] MWF DataGridView working for anyone?
In-Reply-To: <531BE9AA-1480-41C4-8E4E-F9D0548E6F0A@elitedev.com>
References: <531BE9AA-1480-41C4-8E4E-F9D0548E6F0A@elitedev.com>
Message-ID: <15587172.post@talk.nabble.com>


hi marc,

i have got it working on my macbook.
It displays the records alright but most of the properties are not supported
so it crashes when you try ti check recordcount or find selected item etc.

Regards,
Rajesh

marc hoffman-4 wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Has anyone successfully used the DataGridView in Mono 1.2.6_6/Leopard?  
> i don't get any errors, but the grid view always shows empty (i see  
> the columns, and an empty row - as if no data was loaded). exact  
> same .exe on .NET/WinXP shows the data just fine.
> 
> is this a known limitation/missing functionality in current MWF, or am  
> i missing something?
> 
> 
> Yours,
> 
> marc hoffman
> 
> RemObjects Software
> The Infrastructure Company
> http://www.remobjects.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
> http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-osx
> 
> 

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From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 17:14:10 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:14:10 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>

When I try to compile a GTK# project (empty such, just a window), I
get the following message from MonoDevelop (several times):

"The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing
a using directive or an assembly reference?(CS0246)"

There is another message about the Gnome namespace.

Both messages refer to the actual "using" statements that include Gtk and Gnome.

I checked the references and can see gnome-sharp, Version=2.4.0 and
gtk-sharp, Version=2.4.0 in the "Selected references" list.

This is MonoDevelop and framework from Mono 1.2.6_6 on Mac OS X 10.5.2 on Intel.

What am I doing wrong?

From gnorton at novell.com  Thu Feb 28 17:34:25 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Mono.Framework 1.2.6 - System.DllNotFoundException
In-Reply-To: <9b2ef3510802202037va6c4b03r31d8b099aa830acc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9b2ef3510802202037va6c4b03r31d8b099aa830acc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2B5D23DA-FA18-4303-BAA3-51E3BA02FB6F@novell.com>

Ben,
On 20-Feb-08, at 11:37 PM, Ben Hakim wrote:

> Hi everyone, I'm new to the list (but not to Mono) and wanted to say  
> hello :)
>
> I'm using the System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream to handle some  
> streams.  This apparently depends on Mono.Posix.Dll which internally  
> calls a "DllImport" on "MonoPosixHelper."  The executable that I'm  
> using has been bundled with Mono Linker / mkbundle2.exe with the -- 
> deps option.  Everything is working great, EXCEPT for functions  
> requiring MonoPosixHelper.  The following exception is raised:
>
> System.DllNotFoundException: /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/ 
> Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib
>   at (wrapper managed-to-native)  
> System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream:create_z_stream  
> (System.IO.Compression.CompressionMode,bool)
>   at System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream..ctor (System.IO.Stream  
> compressedStream, CompressionMode mode, Boolean leaveOpen, Boolean  
> gzip) [0x00000]
>   at System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream..ctor (System.IO.Stream  
> compressedStream, CompressionMode mode, Boolean leaveOpen) [0x00000]
>   at (wrapper remoting-invoke-with-check)  
> System.IO.Compression.DeflateStream:.ctor  
> (System.IO.Stream,System.IO.Compression.CompressionMode,bool)
>
>
> The file definitely exists at /Library/Frameworks/Mono.framework/ 
> Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib
>
> This location has been referenced through a DllMap entry in the  
> following .config file:
>
> <configuration>
>         <dllmap dll="MonoPosixHelper" target="/Library/Frameworks/ 
> Mono.framework/Versions/1.2.6/lib/libMonoPosixHelper.dylib" />
> </configuration>
>
> Has anyone experienced an issue like this before?
>

I cannot replicate your issue and the file is in fact there.  Can you  
rerun your program with:

export MONO_LOG_MASK=dll
export MONO_LOG_LEVEL=debug

Thanks!

-g


From gnorton at novell.com  Thu Feb 28 17:52:17 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:52:17 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CBC63783-9E98-4294-8B9A-790E2AEA309A@novell.com>

Andrew,

On 28-Feb-08, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:

> When I try to compile a GTK# project (empty such, just a window), I
> get the following message from MonoDevelop (several times):
>
> "The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing
> a using directive or an assembly reference?(CS0246)"
>
> There is another message about the Gnome namespace.
>
> Both messages refer to the actual "using" statements that include  
> Gtk and Gnome.
>
> I checked the references and can see gnome-sharp, Version=2.4.0 and
> gtk-sharp, Version=2.4.0 in the "Selected references" list.
>
> This is MonoDevelop and framework from Mono 1.2.6_6 on Mac OS X  
> 10.5.2 on Intel.
>

Where did you get this Gtk# project from?  We dont ship stetic on mac  
yet, and we dont ship gnome# and likely wont any time soon.

-g


From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Thu Feb 28 18:21:32 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:21:32 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
In-Reply-To: <CBC63783-9E98-4294-8B9A-790E2AEA309A@novell.com>
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBC63783-9E98-4294-8B9A-790E2AEA309A@novell.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802281521r60cdc6eeuee3c11768c6378a0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
>  On 28-Feb-08, at 5:14 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:
>
>  > When I try to compile a GTK# project (empty such, just a window), I
>  > get the following message from MonoDevelop (several times):
>  >
>  > "The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing
>  > a using directive or an assembly reference?(CS0246)"
>  >
>  > There is another message about the Gnome namespace.
>  >
>  > Both messages refer to the actual "using" statements that include
>  > Gtk and Gnome.
>  >
>  > I checked the references and can see gnome-sharp, Version=2.4.0 and
>  > gtk-sharp, Version=2.4.0 in the "Selected references" list.
>  >
>  > This is MonoDevelop and framework from Mono 1.2.6_6 on Mac OS X
>  > 10.5.2 on Intel.
>  >
>
>  Where did you get this Gtk# project from?  We dont ship stetic on mac
>  yet, and we dont ship gnome# and likely wont any time soon.
>

It's a template in MonoDevelop. In C# Samples, I believe.

What's the best way to get started with a project that can run on Mac OS?

From gnorton at novell.com  Thu Feb 28 19:49:01 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:49:01 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
In-Reply-To: <49f8fc020802281521r60cdc6eeuee3c11768c6378a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBC63783-9E98-4294-8B9A-790E2AEA309A@novell.com>
	<49f8fc020802281521r60cdc6eeuee3c11768c6378a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F1637D5-C9CD-4C9C-9BFE-B36FF5C02D7F@novell.com>


On 28-Feb-08, at 6:21 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:

> It's a template in MonoDevelop. In C# Samples, I believe.
>

Please send me a screenshot.

> What's the best way to get started with a project that can run on  
> Mac OS?

Any project that doesn't use gnome# (asuming you want gtk#) should be  
fine.  Or any other kind of project.

-g


From ajbrehm at gmail.com  Fri Feb 29 05:02:38 2008
From: ajbrehm at gmail.com (Andrew Brehm)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:02:38 +0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
In-Reply-To: <2F1637D5-C9CD-4C9C-9BFE-B36FF5C02D7F@novell.com>
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CBC63783-9E98-4294-8B9A-790E2AEA309A@novell.com>
	<49f8fc020802281521r60cdc6eeuee3c11768c6378a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<2F1637D5-C9CD-4C9C-9BFE-B36FF5C02D7F@novell.com>
Message-ID: <49f8fc020802290202i7aafe3a9ne5f5d786c66b2a38@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Geoff Norton <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:
>
>  On 28-Feb-08, at 6:21 PM, Andrew Brehm wrote:
>
>  > It's a template in MonoDevelop. In C# Samples, I believe.
>  >
>
>  Please send me a screenshot.

Will do tonight.


>
>  > What's the best way to get started with a project that can run on
>  > Mac OS?
>
>  Any project that doesn't use gnome# (asuming you want gtk#) should be
>  fine.  Or any other kind of project.
>

Thanks.

I just had a quick look at it anyway. I am using Visual Studio and
Xcode (trying out Cocoa#).

From g.j.baker at dl.ac.uk  Fri Feb 29 16:10:44 2008
From: g.j.baker at dl.ac.uk (Baker, GJ (Gareth))
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:10:44 -0000
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC86E164E4091C4D88A62DADB4AC647912AFE5@exchange06.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>

I get the same message when using the Glade2# "sample". I got it to compile by deleting gtk-sharp and glade-sharp from the Reference folder in the project and reloading the gtk-sharp.dll and glade-sharp.dll assemblies from the mono/gac folder. You have to edit the glade.gui file externally but it all works.

I did have to change the default font to make the files readable and to get blank lines to show up (and I can't get a right click on a trackpad - Ctrl+click does not work - I have to use an external two button mouse)!

Anyway - Good job Geoff

Regards
Gareth Baker


-----Original Message-----
From: mono-osx-bounces at lists.ximian.com on behalf of Andrew Brehm
Sent: Thu 2/28/2008 10:14 PM
To: mono-osx at lists.ximian.com
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
 
When I try to compile a GTK# project (empty such, just a window), I
get the following message from MonoDevelop (several times):

"The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing
a using directive or an assembly reference?(CS0246)"

There is another message about the Gnome namespace.

Both messages refer to the actual "using" statements that include Gtk and Gnome.

I checked the references and can see gnome-sharp, Version=2.4.0 and
gtk-sharp, Version=2.4.0 in the "Selected references" list.

This is MonoDevelop and framework from Mono 1.2.6_6 on Mac OS X 10.5.2 on Intel.

What am I doing wrong?
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From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb 29 16:50:37 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:37 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] MonoDevelop and GTK
In-Reply-To: <CC86E164E4091C4D88A62DADB4AC647912AFE5@exchange06.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>
References: <49f8fc020802281414g551b67e1v182dc05b7123895e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CC86E164E4091C4D88A62DADB4AC647912AFE5@exchange06.fed.cclrc.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <8FF3879B-F1BA-411D-9ED6-BF037F63193A@novell.com>

Gareth,

On 29-Feb-08, at 4:10 PM, Baker, GJ (Gareth) wrote:

> I get the same message when using the Glade2# "sample". I got it to  
> compile by deleting gtk-sharp and glade-sharp from the Reference  
> folder in the project and reloading the gtk-sharp.dll and glade- 
> sharp.dll assemblies from the mono/gac folder. You have to edit the  
> glade.gui file externally but it all works.
>

Thanks for replication steps.  Can you file a bug and I'll look in to  
it?

> I did have to change the default font to make the files readable and  
> to get blank lines to show up (and I can't get a right click on a  
> trackpad - Ctrl+click does not work - I have to use an external two  
> button mouse)!
>

This is fixed in the next release (nicer; bigger font)

Right-click is already filed and is a upstream gtk+ bug.


> Anyway - Good job Geoff
>

Many thanks :)

-g


From Glenn.Lael at monotypeimaging.com  Fri Feb 29 17:03:33 2008
From: Glenn.Lael at monotypeimaging.com (Lael, Glenn)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:03:33 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Creating a native dylib from a .net assembly,
	and calling into it
Message-ID: <C3EDEB65.640%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>

Hi All,

I'm extremely new to Mono ( like this past Tuesday ) so please forgive me if
this has been answered elsewhere, or if I over explain things you already
understand...

I've ported parts of a windows .net app to the mac using mono & macpack,
which worked fine, but in our windows implementation we've use several
separate assemblies ( .dlls ) for the real work that have no ui.

Ultimately these assemblies are called from a windows service which is
always running.  The mac equivalent is a daemon, something I'm going to have
to write in either C++ or objective-c.

So my question is can I generate dynamic libraries ( .dylibs ) for the mac
through mono that I can then call from my daemon or am I stuck having to
rewrite everything ?


Thanks for your help,

Glenn


From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb 29 17:06:38 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Creating a native dylib from a .net assembly,
	and calling into it
In-Reply-To: <C3EDEB65.640%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>
References: <C3EDEB65.640%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>
Message-ID: <7F51681C-DDA1-4E57-ABE8-B84811C922B5@novell.com>

Glenn,

On 29-Feb-08, at 5:03 PM, Lael, Glenn wrote:

> I've ported parts of a windows .net app to the mac using mono &  
> macpack,
> which worked fine, but in our windows implementation we've use several
> separate assemblies ( .dlls ) for the real work that have no ui.
>

Are these .NET assemblies or native windows dll's?

If they're the former, copy them over and it'll just go.  If they're  
the latter you need to recompile/port/rewrite them for Mac.

-g


From Glenn.Lael at monotypeimaging.com  Fri Feb 29 17:20:46 2008
From: Glenn.Lael at monotypeimaging.com (Lael, Glenn)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:20:46 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Creating a native dylib from a .net assembly,
 and calling into it
In-Reply-To: <7F51681C-DDA1-4E57-ABE8-B84811C922B5@novell.com>
Message-ID: <C3EDEF6E.649%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>

( Sorry, I forgot to do a reply all... )

Thanks for the quick reply.

They are .NET assemblies.

I need to call into them from a native objective-C app...


On 2/29/08 5:06 PM, "Geoff Norton" <gnorton at novell.com> wrote:

> Glenn,
> 
> On 29-Feb-08, at 5:03 PM, Lael, Glenn wrote:
> 
>> I've ported parts of a windows .net app to the mac using mono &
>> macpack,
>> which worked fine, but in our windows implementation we've use several
>> separate assemblies ( .dlls ) for the real work that have no ui.
>> 
> 
> Are these .NET assemblies or native windows dll's?
> 
> If they're the former, copy them over and it'll just go.  If they're
> the latter you need to recompile/port/rewrite them for Mac.
> 
> -g
> 


From gnorton at novell.com  Fri Feb 29 17:27:46 2008
From: gnorton at novell.com (Geoff Norton)
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Mono-osx] Creating a native dylib from a .net assembly,
	and calling into it
In-Reply-To: <C3EDEF6E.649%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>
References: <C3EDEF6E.649%Glenn.Lael@monotypeimaging.com>
Message-ID: <AFF5A1EE-B4A3-4609-82B7-AFC345106620@novell.com>

Glenn,

On 29-Feb-08, at 5:20 PM, Lael, Glenn wrote:

> ( Sorry, I forgot to do a reply all... )
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> They are .NET assemblies.
>
> I need to call into them from a native objective-C app...
>

Look at objc# then (a bit out of date; but works, if this becomes a  
viable option for you I can tell you how to make it better based on  
some new stuff I've done), or embed mono yourself.

-g